The Horde will never change without punishments

Who says that? Anduin doesn’t even care about getting those lands back so why would the horde give it back?

Another option would be that thr current horde leaders decide to give the lands back and help regrowing the lands and building new towns but there is 0% chance of this happening

according to the kaldorei everything is their land.
because their empire used to be vast and built on the destruction of numerous other races

Miev even tells us what happens to those that have opposed the night elves and their expansion efforts in the past, or dared to trespass

darkshore and ashenvale aren’t going back to the alliance at any rate, part of the goal of BFA was to do faction specific continents
eventually we’ll likely see silvermoon and the isles changed aswell

It doesn’t matter whether or not Anduin cares. Anduin does what the writers have him do. You keep making posts as if these were real people and real places.

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Well my posts are also directed at the writers. I’m making these hoping that blizz gathers feedback from it and considers it in their future decisions.

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Oh my god this thread is still going?
My first post in a 500+ thread is a yiff joke.

Neat.

Girl, that is literally how you critique plot-holes and inconsistency in writing. If fans didn’t do this kind of thing video game narratives would be worse for it.

Letting writers write bullcrap that cannot exist alongside rationale thought in a vacuum separated from narrative consistency, without critique, is how we get WoD.

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Let’s lock them up in camps. That worked so well the first time.

Read through her posts, and tell me if you feel the same way.
Many people critique the the writing, but they do it with a degree of detachment, as if it’s a story, not as if it’s their lives.

I was in the first 100 posts of this thread. She is just passionate. Even if she were taking it too seriously that’s the person you actually want to discuss lore with so i don’t see that as a negative.

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Moses would like a word with you.

Actually, it might. Before they were coming off a major drug binge and ended up suffering from withdrawal. After that we dealt with the Blood Elf mana addiction and recently the Nightborne and their arcwine addiction, another form of mana addiction. Azeroth has changed and thankfully addiction faces less stigmatism.

The above is part joke part serious.


Honestly, he doesn’t deserve forgiveness. His actions, as a prominent leader, lead to the death of countless innocent people. When someone murders a loved one they do not deserve your forgiveness. This is actually something that’s being discussed in real life. Should you hold on to that anger, sadness, resentment and pain indefinitely? No, because that would mean you’ve left a wound upon yourself and it’s best that you allow yourself to heal at some point. It’s all too easy to let that wound fester and lead you down a path where you turn into the person you have despised your entire life.

I resent Saurfang for what he’s done, but at the same time I feel empathy for what he has been through and also acknowledge him sacrificing himself to Sylvanas prevented a tremendous loss of life. That being said I can still look at all the times he could have changed the outcomes of various situations. I no longer hate him but I certainly won’t ever forgive him. You don’t have to forgive someone in order to let go of your anger and pain.

That’s true, however he was a prominent leader who enabled much of what happened. While there are situations where things can and have been attributed to a rogue element, Sylvanas was sitting at the top with other faction leaders of the Horde backing her. Some of which should have known better.

/pours out bottle of Arcwine in front of First Arcanist Thalyssra

You said you wouldn’t make the same mistake again!! :stuck_out_tongue:

Oh, believe me, the Horde will suddenly really want peace the moment an Alliance character decides to actually give them some payback.

Which is happening with Tyrande, right now.

Blizzard narrative is the cheap Horde biased crap. Total double standards.

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Ha! I bet you the best Tyrande will be able to do is beat up a bunch of peons and then we will have to kill her.

  1. moses isn’t true
  2. using an incident where god gave forewarning and knowledge of what would come and how to prepare isn’t the same thing as being empowered and abandoned at the same time

infact the story of moses demonstrates that god was with moses, not abandoning him

he shouldn’t be forgiven because his actions (sparing saurfang) are the direct actions that led to the burning of teldrassil and countless more lives being lost
all because of a “dishonorable” blow that wasn’t dishonorable

unlikely, 9/10 alliance characters are actually spared any consequences at all for their actions whereas horde ones are quickly slain for them

the horde as it currently stands is losing characters at an alarming pace that is gutting the faction

Tell that to Nathanos and Sylvanas who are the only horde characters that should’ve actually died.

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oh yeah…2 individuals survive when the expac and the last few have killed off characters like flies
totally makes it better

esp when we still lose access to 2 more characters of the horde

the horde has literally only done what it’s done because of leadership, and we just switched to a council system

your vengeful dork leads Tyrandle and Malfurryon will be responsible for the next war

It will be entirely the horde’s fault tho if they don’t do a single thing to make up for genocide.

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who of our current leaders will start a war?

You, Elesana, like to toss out the word “genocide.”

Okay…
Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
Was that genocide or an act of War?

i don’t see the kaldorei scrambling to make up for the multitude of races they’ve pushed from their land or outright tried to exterminate

are you saying that if one of the troll races for instance had done it it’d be on the kaldorei that they got slaughtered?

they never paid for their crimes, is it acceptable to do such things to the kaldorei if you belong to one of those groups? or does attacking those seeking peace now only apply to the kaldorei?