The Horde will never change without punishments

Because the game is stuck in a story loop. It is probably safe to say we have given it up after the whole war is over. I mean they are not gonna make those Warzones irrelevant, they gonna milk them for what they can but to expect blizzard to actually close those story gaps, probably not going to happen, especially at the cost of losing a gameplay feature. I mean there is a reason why I can still go to Draenor even though the portal is supposedly not accessible.

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Well I suppose Camp Tarajo and the Cataclysm just happened too. Because that is also where zones are stuck. In fact, despite having played all the way through WoD, my druid still has Garrosh in the dang throne room. Alongside Vol’jin for a while, then alongside Sylvanas.

The Horde is ABSOLUTELY not still blighting Ashenvale. That’s ridiculous. After using it on Lordaeron, we never see it used again, and it’s CERTAINLY not being currently used.

The world is static. They’re not going to revert Darkshore until they do another world revamp.

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Most bizarre thing when you get in this weird phasing glitch and see all of them at the same time.

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Heh, when I went in to do the “Champion come talk to me in the throne room about the new war” bit where she sends you to Darkshore, Vol’jin was still there sitting on the throne, with Garrosh standing alongside. Wild ride.

Our great warchief Sylvolosh.

Anyone else think the OP is Eveara/Lunanaya?

I mean if something changed, there would atleast be some changes in the lore to know that something happened in those zones, but as of 8.3 there are still no news on it other than Tyrande leaving these zones, meaning they probably gave up on trying to reconquer it.

So it’s okay to get “death threats” on twitter because she’s a “horrible writer” for your faction?

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like you do realize this is a game right? Normal logic doesn’t apply. The story goes where ever the writers want it to go. They could literally make the Horde full of hippies just be writing it in. Expecting a logical real world solution for the issue you’ve listed doesn’t mean anything. Because its all fictional. The characters in this game don’t actually have free will.

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Shockingly bad writing. Anduin completely disregards the warning his father gave to the Horde:

“I am willing to end this bloodshed. But know this: If your horde fails to uphold honor, as Garrosh did…we will end you.”

There’s a reason Varian had to die. The writers boxed themselves in with that dialogue and Varian’s warning had to die with him.

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They didn’t say or imply it was okay, and you should be ashamed for even asking.

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I don’t know any fans of the Horde who would write the Horde this way.

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Ooo the night elf is gonna punish me? What is the safe word?

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but what about Camp Taurajo

I think there were at least two cinematics about breaking the cycle. When a group of people break the cycle it goes without saying you have to forgive and forget.

I’ve always thought the war would go on endlessly, people tend not to forgive and forget. Can you see the Draenei forgiving Orks looking at their history? Blizzard seems to be leaning in that direction so we shall see.

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self-insertman loves the scourgesaken horde

there is no safe word :wink:

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Well yeah, they leave story loop holes open all the time. If you get something it may not be until next expansion that wraps this up properly.

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the Draenei would be the most willing to forgive the atrocities suffered by their people
specifically because they were at peace until their “ancestors” whipped them into a rage…much of which came from the demon blood

in the end though the Draenei slaughter lies squarely at their feet
they were found because of eredar magic (the draenei using their magics) and the orcs were whipped into and tricked into rage and distrust of the Draenei by one that even the majority of their people couldn’t resist
the orcs were given no warning…at all that such things were even possible, even though the Draenei knew full well they were being hunted, and that time and time again they were found and forced to flee

there were only 2 outcomes that were going to come, the orcs would be slaughtered when the legion invades…them knowing nothing of this force and still being disjointed, with the legion learning of the planet thanks to the recklessness of the Draenei
or
Kil’Jaeden would do what he does best and turn the orcs on the draenei
he is literally known as the deceiver

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The problem is that Blizzard should not have used night elf genocide as a plot point. If you do something so horrific in a story you can’t simply move on from it, it has to be the central plot point. You don’t just wipe out the majority of a race and say ‘well this is very morally gray’. It is a lot different than a lopsided military victory. There would be war crime trials. Pretty heavy stuff for an MMORPG. I would prefer to not have to sit through Nuremburg 2.0 during 8.3.5.

I think that Blizzard was extremely callous in how Teldrassil was handled and i find it to be their most distasteful writing to date. In real life genocide does occur on a distressingly regular basis and it is horrifying. It says a lot about how people view it when it is presented casually in-game, even against a fictional population.

So while yeah, someone on the Horde should probably be held to account in-game, it is Blizzard that completley messed up on this one.

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being a regent doesn’t make one the ruler, and using Bolvar is absurd BECAUSE he was a regent, at this point in the story he would’ve already been replaced even without the wrath expansion

at any rate he stopped being a regent at all when varian was found, even had he not been Anduin would’ve come of age at around the time of wrath

he wasn’t “lost” as a faction leader, he was lost as a hero of the alliance.

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