Ye. Crimbles is an important holiday. Also, wife wanted to watch Goblin the Last Guardian, so I tucked in to watch the adventures of Kim Shin and Death.
Even if it wasn’t though, I’d already proven you wrong, Denona. The Night Elves taunted the orcs and thought that tormenting them was funny. Then the orcs proved to be a real army, and they took them more seriously, trying to kill them for logging their forest (just as they later kill Duke Humanguy for the same reason later.)
The nelves underestimated the orcs, but they never thought they were demon-related until Cenarius himself – unsummoned, unbidden – notes that they’re demon tainted. And even then they do not summon Tyrande. They do not summon Malfurion. They don’t even summon the Wardens.
Tyrande stares out over Ashenvale for hours. Shandris asks her if the orcs are what she senses. She answers “Maybe, maybe not.” When the Legion is discovered for realsies, she immediately kills her own people to get her demon hunter simp to help kill the Legion.
She broke the ‘ten thousand years in prison’ get out of jail button not for orcs, but for demons.
All I’m saying is, he left the conversation, went to do something else, then came back hours later (not days later) and wanted to continue the drama for no reason. Given that the thread went into a different conversation.
I don’t know how you got days from me saying 4-5 hours.
Ironic how you are trying to call me out on doing a fallacy when you yourself are doing a strawman. Claiming I said things that I never actually said while also claiming the time between posts was longer (days compared to hours) than it actually was.
Is Dreadmoore still whining about something that happened days ago? wow.
Also like how Allawyn refuses to respond to me calling them out for strawmaning me but they still like Dreadmoores posts. hmmmmm…
Still find it funny that Dreadmoore was really triggered by something that was obviously a hyperbole drawn from quotes from characters involved in the conflict. All because I was the one who said it.
Wasn’t really a debate. You asked for where I got that idea from. I gave you where, and it was clearly hyperbole drawn from those sources and quotes. And you, as usual ignored the sources all because you have this vendetta against me for calling you an idiot because you can’t read a post that contains more than 5 sentences (which is something you do on the regular).
And even a day later you are still whining about it. Let it go. I did until you kept digging it up because of your fragile ego.
By questioning the validity of the sources, you are asking where I sourced that view point from.
I gave you the sources as you questioned if they were true or not and you decided to ignore them because of your personal vendetta.
I even pointed out how your argument doesn’t work because the only reason why Tyrande did those things when the Legion did invade… was because Cenarius was dead. Cenarius being alive was the reason why the Legion was holding itself back from invading Kalimdor in the first place. Even with the scourge at its beck and call. I even provided a quote that directly says this and you ignored it as well. Maybe I need to take a page from your book and bold every sentence I ever write because you seem to be blind as a bat. Either that or you still cannot read beyond 5 sentences in a single post.
So please, actually take a step back and leave. Stop bringing this drama back up hours or even days after it finished. It benefits no-one.
::he would gently hold your hand as he leads you on the path to understanding.::
Even when Cenarius holds their hand and tells them orcs are demon infused, they don’t pull out the big guns. Their actions speak louder than their words.
::I will now gently hold your hand as I lead you down the path of understanding.::
Because they had their biggest gun with them. Why would you need to big out smaller guns if you had a living nuke ready to go?
I get it, nothing I will say will change your mind. Because you think you are always correct and are always smug about it. And because of that you will never change your view. You are vindictive and love to get into petty arguments over the smallest of things if someone “insulted” your fragile ego. As I did when you claimed to “help me” by suggesting I should just check someones collections when seeing if they are alt posting. Despite the fact I literally said I did. You were just too lazy to actually read the post. And when I pointed that out, you took offense to it, claiming that you will never “help” me again. So of course in typical Dreadmoore fashion, you look the smallest of points in a post that honestly would’ve been on your side because of the person who posted it.
You questioned the ‘sources’ that led to my conclusion. I gave you those sources and explained why I said what I said. I even went beyond that by providing additional context. Context you continue to ignore. Trying to act like Illidan and Malfurion are somehow bigger guns than Cenarius. Despite the fact that the Legion thought otherwise. And you keep ignoring that fact because it destroys your argument. The Legion would not have invaded Kalimdor as long as Cenarius was alive. That is not an opinion, that is a fact. And Dreadmoore…
Facts don’t care about your feelings.
So for the last time. Walk away. Stop trying to continue this hours or even days after it should’ve ended. We are at the point where none of us will move from our positions. So there is no point continuing it. Grow up Dreadmoore. Actually read posts that are longer than five sentences and move on.
No, they didn’t.
And again, because you apparently haven’t understood this despite me pointing it out sixish times before:
They never saw the situation as desperate enough to summon him. He came of his own volition due to lumber logging run amok. They do not summon him. They don’t summon him. They don’t call for him. They do not call for him. They do not bid him to arrive. They do not whistle for ol’ Cenarius. They don’t send Lassie to get help from Cenarius because Timmy fell down a well. They do not ever ask for any help . They do not ever think the orcs are demons on their own volition. Cenarius point it out. They do not treat the orcs as the Burning Legion.
TYRANDE IMMEDIATELY KILLS HER OWN PEOPLE TO FETCH ILLIDAN WHEN THE ACTUAL BURNING LEGION IS MADE APPARENT.
They do not do the basic free action of summoning Cenarius, which doesn’t require them to kill their own people to obtain.
If you’re still unable to understand the flaw in your argument after that, I fear that you might need someone to professionally guide you.
Regardless… I don’t see what the problem here is. Tyrande knew who she could rely upon to do unspeakable things in her name, and she went and collected him. Clearly, she didn’t think Cenarius or Malfurion were up to the task.
You could argue that it lead the the current state of WoW. Had we had a council instead of just a Warchief, you could argue that there would have been more oversight during Wrath and Wrathgate could have been avoided. All of Sylvys shenanigans could have been caught sooner, etc.
