The Horde: A Different Type of Heroism

What does the goats have to do with it?

Edit. Why genetic. Cultural.

I don’t think that this is a good avenue of reasoning to go down. Despite making all sorts of horrible decisions, the Horde is still made up of people and should be considered as such.

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There was a draenei player making similar arguments before.

Which of course didn’t stop the Horde from claiming Lordaeron as well. So much for wanting to leave the Eastern Kingdoms and get a fresh start I suppose

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Well it’s pretty easy to claim a place that you actively live in and have for generations if not millenia.

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Well, I for one disagree that Horde children are pests and are evil by birth.

I think the Horde believed that Alliance believes that. And I am sure a lot of Allys do. The average farmer thinks of the Horde as just scary monsters, we can see glimpses of it in that questline where we look for Saurfang.

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These people are murderers and they praise murder. Treat them like human killers, right?

So long as they wear red, right?

Orcs have not been on Azeroth for millenia.

Human killers are still people and we don’t treat their children as killers as well.

For Orgrimmar to be the same as Theramore, it would need to be closer to Stormwind, have a port that connects it to even LARGER population centers full of Orcs, Trolls, and Tauren, and be used as a forward operations base for another Horde base even closer to Stormwind.

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The children of the Horde are angry with their upbringing.

Both nouns in this post are wrong.

what did I misunderstand?

I’m sorry, but are you claiming that Orgrimmar is more legitimate because it had Thunder Bluff near it? Even though Thunder Bluff didn’t exist at the time of Orgrimmar’s founding?

That I wasn’t talking about Orcs or Kalimdor.

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They’re trotting out “The Forsaken are the people of Lordaeron” in order to legitimize the colonial presence of the Horde in Lordaeron, even though that very colonial presence is one of the major reasons that Theramore’s population couldn’t go home.

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Don’t tell me. This is not why there is a stereotype that children will follow the path of their parents.
The killer will raise the killer. Either the child needs to be isolated from the killer, or, if this is not possible, to wait for the first attack and isolate him from society, or to isolate right now along with his caregiver (killer).

“Colonialism is when you live in your house that you own.”

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The Forsaken are the people of Lordaeron. There’s no ifs or buts.

What are they supposed to do? Just get up and leave?

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