You should be moderating what your 12 year old does and sees on the internet anyways. Blizz provides all the tools to do so
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Given how kids have constant access to the internet these days with their phones, and how kids learn from each other how to bypass parental controls and/or borrow their peers phones, it’s outright foolishness to think that one’s child is safe and protected just because you use all the parental tools.
If I had a kid, and I taught this kid and I put all kinds of parental controls on their phone, their computer, etc, there’s nothing stopping this kid from borrowing one of their friends’ jailbroken phones to go over to the 'hub for example.
You can’t be with your kid 24/7 and I think that companies that run online games that welcome 13+ year old children should also take some of the responsibility to make sure that the content in said game is reasonably moderated for that age group in mind.
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So you don’t have kids, but if you did you would expect every game and site to protect your kid from the idea that grownups have kids?
I fully acknowledge that it’s an “at your own risk” activity. I just don’t see a real reason for Blizzard to do anything about it at this point in time. It’s not a pedo ring. If it becomes that, then yeah, something will have to be done, but that doesn’t seem to be where we’re at with MG-Goldshire. It’s largely adults doing adult things privately. If they want to take that risk, so be it.
Although I will say that people seem pretty good about including 18+ warnings in their profiles, so I’d imagine those same people are pretty good about straight up asking the person before doing anything as well. Not sure if that holds less weight than the apps you were talking about, but it’s something at least.
If I had kids, and I allowed them to play an MMORPG that advertises that it’s for children ages 13 and up, I would expect reasonable moderation, and I wouldn’t want them playing a game in which they can randomly teleport to an area and see graphic descriptions of BDSM in /yell, lol.
If it were just whispers, I’d agree with you. But Elwynn - General and /yell has had some pretty … uh… weird conversations I would not let a 13 year old child of mine anywhere near.
And it’s not like it’s just one troll randomly yelling stuff, I’ve seen it many times so that implies it goes on there regularly.
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Imagine trying to police what consenting adults do for fun on a video game.
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And how do you know they are adults?
WoW is marketed at 13+ year old children.
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You can say thay about 99% of games, especially online ones. I guess just don’t let kids play. Then again its not like companies require birth certs and other ID to play their games.
What in Goldshire is sexual Harassment?
Its consensual and also virtual.
It may be in poor taste to outsiders but no one involved is complaining.
Unless you are claiming that the avatars are being forced against their will by the person controlling them to participate in such acts.
… yeah … good luck with that.
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I’d be totally fine with Blizz cracking down on the public stuff more. I’m not gonna say it doesn’t happen, but most of the /yells and such are pretty blatant trolls that wouldn’t be missed.
Frankly it’s a lot quieter than it used to be. I was AFK in MG Elwynn for a full 25 minutes at like 9PM yesterday (I didn’t want to miss a whisper and Trade Chat would’ve knocked it out) and there was not a single word spoken in /yell or /1.
Most games moderate what you can say in public channels.
Maybe it’s because I only go to Elwynn while the Faire is up, but it seems like every time I go there, there’s nasty junk in /y or /1.
Maybe on “off hours” (or days) while the Faire isn’t up, maybe it’s a bit better about that.
Also, Yells from players have a limited range. If you’re way over by red ridge you won’t hear a yell from Goldshire, I don’t think. So it depends on where you were idling.
People doing that should be reported and banned.
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Is it odd that I did the Maw stuff with him once?
Before 9.1?
ERP is part of RP
How hard is it to understand?
Have you ever been in trade chat
Or raid general chats
Or literally any chat with lots of people.
If I let my kid play WoW I would immediately turn off all global/zone chats. They’re all vile.
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I mean, its not just a male issue. The amount of female players who actually use ERP in game to get rl cash or in game gold is pretty wide spread. Its on the same line as hottub streamers and those women who sit half naked and lick their microphones for money. Where theres a market theres people that will make use of it. Thats human nature. But if you think women are all taken advantage of and innocent without question, hate to break it to you but your wrong.
And this is coming from a female.
That is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard, and I’ve heard some dumb things. Widespread? Just because occasionally you see a girl or two advertising her Onlyfans that typically quickly gets shut down doesn’t mean that it’s common among female players.
It’s pretty widespread in GS. I seent it.
Not every female player, and most of them doing it in GS are probably male irl anyway… But it’s still a pretty widespread thing.
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What, among players on Moon Guard? Among female players? It’s a handful of people, at best, that doesn’t make it widespread.