Lets clear something up - Everyone of the people in this forum post are either forgetting this important fact or are secretly bot farmers in disguise.
1 - bot farmers sell gold for real money: how much real money in game gold is worth is defined by how much in game gold their is. REMEMBER THIS FACT.
2 - bots do not sell on the AH they vendor items to generate gold in the game - they do this for two reasons.
A: they have instant gold for orders.
B: they don’t need to rely on players to generate gold - aka the economy.
ex: feel free to google “bot farmers” on youtube or other places to see examples of the thousands of bots currently performing this method.
3 - this means that the amount of gold per hour on each bot is pretty much fixed and does not scale proportionately to the economy’s inflation: if they want to make more gold per hour they need to run additional bots to do so.
This all means that the more gold in game the more bots need to be run by the gold farmers to generate consistent profit. They aren’t affected by the economy on the contrary the less gold in the economy the better for them because they make more IRL MONEY per gold sold. Since the majority of their gold comes from vendoring a fresh start server won’t slow them down in the slightest because they aren’t using the player economy to generate 80-90% of their gold reserves.
One of the reasons I don’t think blizzard will prevent players from bringing gold over is because of this very reason. Right now botters have to bot overtime with hundreds upon hundreds of accounts to make ends meet and this makes them easy to ban. A fresh start server would not only be exactly what the gold farmers want it would make them harder to catch.
The idea that a fresh start server would be an EDEN or safe haven from botters is incredibly ironic and leads me to believe that all of you arguing for it either have personal bot armies or are willfully ignorant of the REAL WORLD ECONOMY part of gold farming.
They can adequately advocate for their preferred option without advocating for it to be the only option. It takes a particular type of control freak to try to force everyone to do it their way.
I’ve noticed that it’s mainly just been the fresh start players doing that for some reason. I don’t think I’ve noticed a single post from someone that wants progressive servers ONLY (aside from the obvious troll posts).
It’s one thing to prefer one over the other. That’s fine but we should all be advocating for our preference as well as having the other type of server as an option.
This back and forth argument about which one is best all comes down to opinions and is a waste of time. No one is going to change the mind of someone else.
I think fresh start servers themselves are a cool idea because I’m curious to see what the dynamic would be. However I don’t want to give up the cool gear I’ve gotten on classic so I’d like a progression server. gold is rather irrelevant to me at this point I can take it or leave it.
I think most players are getting hung up on the idea that a fresh start will somehow save the economy and believe that anyone who doesn’t want a fresh start is inherently ruining the game.
This ideology is what’s causing the constant forum posts.
Before responding to a few posters, here is a reminder quoted from the thread starter post.
Now for some responses.
You should have started with this to save us time and care.
That is a baseless opinion statement, not fact. Plus, you forget that there are ways of laundering ill gotten gold, and much of it has already been used to purchase rewards. Everything is tainted.
Then you are not the pure TBC fan that a fresh start Classic TBC is for.
DEMONBOT #1: This one named Kythskar knows too much. Eliminate it.
DEMONBOT #2: Termination sequence activated.
Well said. I heart posters for a few reasons. Some for daring a well written retort. Some for participation. Yours I gave a heart for continuing to work this coming problem smartly.
Comments like this always comes across as funny, because the insinuation is that suckering players into playing a faction that they otherwise wouldn’t want is necessary. It is like a protagonist rationalizing their evil as being necessary and good for the world.
You can start fresh, but we will continue. I see no point to level few month in classic zones while outlands is open. This is how it was back in a days, 60 were leveling to 70s.
Yeah, please link me the blue post that confirms they are going to be completely separate. You’re talking about it as if it’s a fact, so back it up.
That comment was sarcasm, not my actual opinion. I’d rather have 2 “versions” of the same servers. If I log in to classic kromcrush is still there, when I log into BC day 1 there’s an exact copy of kromcrush. Drop everyone’s gold to 10k or something I don’t care. I’m not leveling from 1-60 again. 1-60 is classic content, not BC content, let it stay in “museum piece” classic.
There isn’t one. That’s why people debating this, to get our voices heard. I never claimed to know how BC was going to roll out, just how I would like to see it if it did
Obviously you can’t quantify level-of-care. All I can do is assure you that I would be more bothered by having my legitimate efforts trashed than by Blizzard kneecapping any ill-gotten gains I might’ve invested in.
And I think just about everyone with a sense of fair-play feels this way.
I just want blizzard to announce it already so people can stop arguing.
… or will they stop arguing?
Even if we get both progressive and fresh servers, it wouldn’t surprise me though if we still get the same people arguing about this.
