He only speaks in hyperbole so its understandable 
Yeah itâs a pretty tricky situation. Normally the game just progresses to the next expansion and there are no concerns. With Classic and TBC though, you will have people who take advantage of the system to artificially increase their gold in one game or the other.
I do not want a fresh start. I want to carry over with my current character. I didnât put all this time into it just to never see it again.
They could have us essentially hit a button that copies our characters over, however you could just have your guild trade you all their gold before you copy.
They could have the current server transition into TBC while allowing you to have a copy of your character saved onto a new Classic super-realm. Iâd imagine most Classic servers would die with TBC, so it is likely that there will only be a handful of Classic servers after a merge. Youâd still have an issue with artificial gold hoarding.
They could let us copy our characters over, but replace everyoneâs gold stack with like 300g. That prevents people from copying a character with guild gold, but it doesnât stop a player from buying expensive items on the AH and then copying their character over with those items in their inventory.
At the end of the day I think the only real option is to progress to TBC naturally, and then offer a fresh-start Classic realm. I believe that TBC will be a year or so from now. So fortunately that will give people enough time to get everything they want from Naxx (hopefully). It would make sense at that point for the Classic servers to restart with fewer realms. Once people have all their BiS, there is no reason for them to even play anymore anyways.
Do you honestly think every server is going to coordinate and reroll on the same server? Some people actually like their servers and their guilds, and donât want to see them broken up to take some gold out of the economy.
The only âgoodâ thing from a forced fresh start is a gold reset. It ruins every other aspect of the expansion
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Absolutely. Itâs not even clear my entire guild will reroll together, much less the entire server community - we interact with so many more players than just those in our guild because itsâ a community. And itâs just so bad to remove all of that by forcing rerolls.
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My guild is kinda split atm too. Some us want to reroll horde, some to stay on a pvp server, some want to go pve. This is on top of the handful weâve already lost to shadowlands.
Pretty much. I know of several that plan to reroll Horde purely for BE regardless of what Blizzard does, and I know some that would roll Horde if it was forced fresh while others refuse to ever play Horde.
It sucks.
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Unfortunately if itâs forced fresh everyone will be horde but those few âalliance for lifeâ types. PvP will be virtually non existent, and alliance will struggle to find groups or get anything done. BE racials are just too good to pass up if your class can be BE. Every server would be minimum 80% horde. PvP servers would be 90%+ horde.
And they wonât add merc mode to BC, as they didnât add it to classic to alleviate horde queue times in AV. So thereâs no reason to think it would added to BC. Anyone who enjoys pvp at all should be adamantly against F R E S H
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I think this is drastically exaggerated.
If you look at the race statistics on tbc private servers, you will see that the split is pretty even, blood elf being like third most popular behind orc and undead.
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And?
Proofs?
That is a player problem, not a gameplay problem. Vanilla didnât have merc mode and Classic players fully well knew which faction would have massive queue times for BGs.
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Why would I care if entire servers remain on the same server? If your guild is incapable or unwilling to do so, again no great loss.
But the entire server is a community⊠Taking out some gold that will just be re-earned by the same players in a few short weeks isnât worth completely destroying the communities that have been built on every server.
A forced fresh start solves nothing. BC is an expansion not a new game.
Bull. A server, outside of your guild, is merely a number of miscellaneous players. Pretending it is something more than that (beyond rp servers) is disingenuous as hell.
@Zydax you are intentionally not understanding. Gold is not the sole source of relations. The community is not hinged on player wealth dynamics. The community is not all in agreement and singularly focused on preserving bot gold. I see no valid argument in this line of thinking.
They always were. Them choosing not to work for it doesnât magically mean others should be held back to cater to their lazy ways
Then a month later those same lazy people will be behind again and asking for others to be torn down again to benefit themselves
Who are we trying to fool?
well not entirely. iâm an alliance fan, so i will roll a blood elf for nostalgia but play mostly alliance characters and more seriously - such as a draenei priest and a night elf hunter, maybe a gnome warlock. of course, iâm a casual so i am not thinking of what is the ultimate race in the whole game, but rather whats best for my faction (within reason. like iâm not gonna play a dwarf, though every guide says dwarves are fabulous in tbc).
heres a decent guide on tbc alliance races
Glad youâre not on my server
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Never said it was. I donât think anyone wants bot gold in the game. But dealing with bot gold is preferable to the alternative, which is completely destroying the communities weâve built over the last year and a half.
Just admit that it is about your gold, and not the halfhearted âitâs the communityâ garbage.
I have less than 3k gold, and farm most of my own consumes, so itâs not. I donât want to have to level from 1-60 again, I donât want to have to go back and farm vanilla raids for bis items like TF, Iâd prefer not to play horde, but a fresh start would essentially force me to. Iâd like to actually pvp every so often. I donât care if someone else gets epic flying day 1. That doesnât affect me.
A forced fresh start is just a waste of time, when Iâve already put in the work on my character. Progressing your character is kinda the entire point of an expansion. Can you please tell me which expansion forced all players to start at level 1?
Where did your âcommunityâ argument go?
1-60 leveling in TBC is accelerated with a ton more quests.
You are not required to though?
How so?
If you wanted to PVP often, staying alliance would ensure virtually instant queues. If you are referring to open world pvp in tbc, I have to wonder if you actually played tbc.
MMORPGs are literally time wasters.
Vanilla classic is a museum. You were never promised that your museum characters would progress to a different museum. Can you please tell me which expansion left behind the previous game intact?