Phase 2 will certainly be an amusing time on the forums at least. This is a win win.
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Yep, for the people actually using GDKP for RMT, theyâll just bid in discord with actual money or pay gold to reserve drops in a raid, which Iâve already seen happening.
âPST WITH CLASS AND BUDGET, YOU GET ALL DROPS FOR YOU CLASS WHILE WE CARRYâ Thatâs not GDKP, but still a loot system where you trade gold for gear.
Remember when they found Shia Labeoufâs flag?
Like that.
I donât think they âhaveâ to clarify anything. itâs their liberal interpretation of their limited use license. ur rights are a borrowed right.
second i hope youâre not being purposefully obtuse. i generally agree w u im just struggling to understand u dont understand the concept of trust on the transaction
I donât understand why you think trust is an issue. Player RL has the items at end of run, everyone returns to IF, annouces âFlask of Moniesâ will be the gold stand in item and bidding starts on loot, Player A bids 20g on boots of butt kicking, they win the bid. They then go to the AH and buy 10 flasks, which equals 20g. Then trades them with RL for boots of butt kicking.
Itâs no different really in truth than any other GDKP run.
because, as an example, when a person steals, theres legal penalty as a deterrent. when a person performs illicit activity, you dont have blizzard there to enforce anything. you cant go to the forums. a scammer got scammed. what are you going to do, break their kneecaps?
edited also to add that i disagree with this. under current RMT gold buying enforcement regime, this is classified as a âdelivery methodâ. meaning that gold buying includes AH as a mode of delivery. itâs not farfetched the same will apply w gdkps. but i disagree w u that itâs absolute and instead what i said earlier that someone may interpret it that way and ban u for it
Iâll gladly spend my time joining all those discords just to submit tickets then. Do not worry.
Thatâs true for just about any type of run, whatâs your point?
hyperbole. also u ignored the premise and took a potshot at the conclusion
I will be going door to door to arrest people for using discord to coordinate gdkps.
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Itâs not hyperbole at all, I donât kmow why you canât grasp such a simple concept but Iâve run out of methods to get you to understand.
Premise 1:
âBetty wants an epic BoE. Betty doesnât have gold. She buys it from Susan Express, using farmed mats on the AH. Susan Express buys those items. Blizzard has no idea Betty has bought gold from SE, but bans her. Upon appeal, Betty explains she used the AH. It was a legitimate transaction. Blizzard responds, re-affirming her ban, despite no evidence of the purchase from SE.â
Why is this? Because Betty violated the ToS by buying gold. The means (the AH) arenât against the ToS. Itâs the circumstantial evidence surrounding the conduct.
Premise 2:
âPlayer joins a raid and asks in chat what the loot rules are. Blizzard previously clarified loot rules must be explained for them to be enforceable. Raid lead explains to player the loot is main spec > os +1 with sword HR. Staff drops off a boss, and RL ninjas to his friend. Player opens ticket and the staff is removed from friend. RL was also suspended for 24 hours.â
Why is this? Because player had backing of loot rules and Blizzard. Without it, thereâs no stick, only a carrot.
Conclusion:
You might be right, but good luck! Wish you the best in your risky adventure.
Premise 1 requires blizzard be able to track a line of transactions which we have already clarified would likely not occur.
Premise 2: Blizzard doesnât reverse looting for ninjas, you are living in a dream world of you think that actually is occuring.
wrong. theyâve stated they can. if u want to believe a conspiracy theory, go ahead
they have. just not by restoring items. this is just wrong
So basically you are just delusional.
im living in reality based on things that are said and happened. for the 4th time, u might be right but enjoy the risk!
u describe urself so aptly
They almost certainly just execute a script that looks at whether the raid leader handed out items and then paid people gold at the end of the run. Thatâs almost certainly the extent of their detection.
GSR acts like a GDKP in the ways that matter to automated detection. Hard-L.
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You think that till all pug runs are HR/SR or groups fall apart after everyone gets a boss they need and loss the roll or item doesnât drop and they dip
People have already developed these tools for other games that didnât have built in bidding options.
Anyone dumb enough to pay gold for a run deserves to get ripped off by these hustlers.