Doing group content with people you know.
its like a hack or something.
Its the entire point. Complain that WoW has no community, and its community is bad. While going out of one’s way not to be in a community.
Complain that M+ community is bad because no one talks in it. But complain that m+ community is bad because people talk non stop negatively in it.
Really? That’s your deduction? lol. Okay. Choosing not to do something is far different from being incapable.
You must be in a wrong game. Grouping has been on this game at the start of the game since Vanilla. Elites are on a cave in Teldrassil when we were at early levels. How would you complete its quests without grouping? Deadmines and Scarlet Monastery were very popular lowbie dungeons. Molten Core is a very popular raid dungeon. Those has been done with groups.
Oh no, you want to play and solo lowbie dungeons at max level. Or play Raid dungeons on solo after several expansions when you could solo it. That’s not how it is designed. Grouping has been part of WoW since day 1 in Vanilla 20 years ago and it is still the same up to now although Delves were added… but you forgot that it could be done as group too. Have you noticed the follower dungeons is being done as solo with NPC as your groupmates? Follower Raid and dungeons gives you NPC groupmates becoz dungeons are group games. It is not designed for you to solo it without a groupmate. What you want to do is to wait for 3 years of expansions so you could solo the existing current expansion dungeons which is wrong.
Youre 3/8 lfr with no m+.
Enjoy delves.
I came from Everquest, where grouping was mandatory. Warcraft was a simple, easy game for individual play versus EQ. And I did plenty of raiding, especially in BC and Wrath. It’s always cute when folks just assume you have zero perspective because you disagree with their opinion.
That’s why I’m in favor of dropping the best equipment in all types of content (Delves, M+, Raid), people play to relax and have fun, not to have to spend hours studying how to do a dungeon in YouTube tutorials and stressing about pugs, let people be happy and get the best equipment.
I mostly go out of my way to not have my time on the game influenced by others. I accept what I get in pugs for the fact that I can get on and do what I want or get up and walk away at any time without worrying about stepping on anyone’s toes or rerunning content I cleared earlier in the week to help someone out.
The M+ pug community isn’t great but it’s not terrible either. I consider these ugly interactions part of my seasonal rewards. Collections of stories that I can carry with me. 
And? I literally said I choose not to do certain content this expansion. What’s your point, again?
That’s why WoW is more than 100% popular than EQ. Becoz EQ play rules were stupid.
You choose not to do content that gives gear.
Stop crying then.
I’d say the m+ pug community is more on the quiet side than anything.
If any negative comments come out, its after the key is done. Very few people want to risk someone else leaving, esp as a dps.
If someone is constantly finding others being “toxic”…I would say its self inflicted or a gross exaggeration.
That would be your experience and my anecdotes from the last four seasons don’t match it.
Most of the whining comes during the key and when the run is actually not going that bad. Bricked keys usually fall apart quietly or are completed quietly.
It’s the guy ranting about low interrupts before the first boss that you know is going to be dropping F bombs by the end of the dungeon no matter how much you’re beating the timer by.
Just this season I had a druid tank dropping the N word on the last boss of NW because the shaman had low interrupts. We timed the key.
And I’m not asking for the higher gear? Are you even following this thread? It was about folks trying to make delve gear worse, not asking for better gear.
Solo content as it’s currently designed doesn’t get hard enough to award ilvl / crest rewards greater than it does now, and with the way delves have been designed simply tuning them up doesn’t make the content harder in a way that justifies the reward either. In fact it mostly just makes it less and less balanced because the only difficulty factor delves have is unavoidable mob damage.
Delves lack many aspects of other difficult content entirely, and adding them would make delves no longer match the design intent they had or appease their target audience.
I hope we get harder / more nuanced solo content in future, but it won’t be delves and it also likely won’t be content those who appreciate delves for not being mythic+ or raids enjoy. And that’s fine.
Depends the rant. And I am not saying this about you personally.
But sometimes the lack of interrupts needs to be brought up. Some people see any form of suggestions as “toxic”.
Yeah nah. It didn’t need to be brought up at all and not in that way for sure.
I mean. I am not advocating dropping the N word to talk about interrupts.
If your immediate reaction to timing a key is to start nit picking your Details then the guy with low interrupts is the one I’d rather continue runs with tbh.
He has hope.
I don’t set goals then do content that I don’t like just to fulfill them. I only do content that I enjoy. I like delves and pugging heroic raids so I set goals that can be accomplished with that content. If pugging m+ ever becomes less time consuming then I’d consider trying it again but, for now, M+'s problems are not my problems.
If you’re not interrupting in 2024 you shouldn’t be in delves let alone M+
Even Classic players have their kicks bound.