Pugging seems fine to me, I never really have issues with it. The people I meet that hate/complain about it the most are usually the most toxic and worst players though.
These complainers just want to be carried because “if I just had better team I could be rank 1!” But they suck so bad…
That’s funny. I’m doing them now to gear my warrior for next tier.
Ok I’m going to simplify this so even you can understand it.
By changing the vault reward for t8 delves to max champ there is zero change in ilvl for delvers.
However higher end players won’t be forced to do delves because no one is taking a champ track item.
There’s literally zero changes.
I literally listed three fixes. I’m sorry you can’t comprehend them.
Not true.
The can upgrade heroic gear further, if at a much slower process.
There I broke your wrong assumptions again.
Also, you state you want the heroic vault options, yet you remove the heroic vault options.
Whatever dude, you just cannot see beyond your broken reasoning.
Your one synapse connection from seeing your own issue.
dear noob delvers,
I am glad you forced the mods to remove my post, but that doesn’t change the fact that you are just newbies. which is fine. but I still don’t understand that why we have to play according to your rules?
pathetic tbh. go delve, leave m+ alone, stop whining. thanks.
M+ was created because of noobs crying about not being able to raid so it’s hilarious you have this take
You didn’t break anything. If you keep it hero track then the difficulty needs to be raised.
Yes that’s kinda the point genius.
You can’t see past your ignorance.
Why do people ignore crest farming? Delves are great for weekly and maps but utter thrash for crests.
Stop pretending one is far superior to the other, they’re not. If like people have more fun arguing about game modes then actually playing the game.
And they should be. No one is ignoring it.
I don’t have to pretend that selves are over rewarding based on their lack of difficulty.
Adding to this, I have seen nonstop posts on the forums from delve players attacking M+ players at any chance and every turn. “serves you right.” “you wouldn’t find that in delves!”
Hilarious irony lol
NO one cares about your 619 gear…
Pugging 10’s and heroic/mythic raid is less toxic than these forums I swear
Considering how often these threads pop up and how the pendulum swings I digress. It’s one week delves s- on mythic plus and the next its vice versa.
Shocking how that is lost to people. Haven’t done delves on this toon for several weeks now.
They need to fix delves either by needing gear or buffing the content.
Shocking how people don’t want to run them at all seems to be lost on every delver defending their overtuned rewards.
We get it you want to keep shiny hero track since you have never had it before but you’re only getting hero track because Blizz is inflating delve numbers.
I support this once Delves offer the same difficulty as other content.
Like Legion’s OG Mage Tower scaled up.
The irony is I experience very little toxicity in M+, but on almost a daily basis I come to this forum and see someone who doesn’t do M+ imply that I have no life, live with my parents, etc. because I do 1-8 dungeons a week. Lol
I’ll say this much. Soloing a +11 with lives left takes a decent amount of time, and was as hard for me as running M +8-10 feels (probably harder really considering I had to be both my own tank and healer as well). I would have no issues with +11’s with lives left being a farmable way of earning Gilded Crests.
With the crest changes the gap shrunk by a ton, so thankfully for us that can’t stand mythic+ we can continue quietly farming our crests and doing delves.
I do wish they would introduce a solo que system for mythic+ or a death counter instead of the timer. The way it is now is cancer and just isn’t fun, id rather go back to raiding than deal with that.
Ding ding ding. Huge portion of the most vocal people about M+ don’t even participate in it or barely touch it while being heavily invested in the topic and trying to sound like an expert.
Literally not the delvers complaining, its the Mythic runners. Delvers aren’t asking for changes, they’re asking to be left alone. Maybe try reading the thread. This thread is 90% mythic runners complaining about delves needing to be nerfed, either in their rewards, or spiked in their difficulty to make it fair to Them, and the delvers going “We don’t like or run mythics, if you like those run those, leave delves alone.”
Are there other threads where delvers complain about mythics, i’m sure there are. But this is not that thread.
Actually it’s being asked because delves over rewarding is against blizzards game ideology and their stance for the entire games existence.
We don’t care if delves offer hero track gear. It just needs its difficulty to reflect that gear.
Currently you have fresh 80s clearing t8 delves in quest greens or level 70 gear.