The gap between M+ and Delves

Right. It’s a pat on the head, here have your cute little gear, it’s all you need, now run along. Like delvers are children, or something. It’s absurd.

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Yall told me the gear drops from delves are meaningless.

I would say its equally gaslighting pretending like any noticeable portion of people are saying this.

A few fringe amount. Sure.

But pretending this is a main argument from any group of people is silly.

Breh it’s a literal convo happening in this thread lol.

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Yeah that’s only an issue now with many sparks available. It’s gonna settle itself come 2nd season.

And the gear, rewards, and crests are much better in M+.

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check out the ion thread I posted earlier, theirs a fair chunk of people who say that exact thing.

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(Over the top Al Pacino voice): Give 'em an inch, and those Delvers will take a MILE!

And rightfully so with how much more difficult they are compared to delves.

To be clear I didn’t bring it up because I thought it was a good idea. I just wanted their opinion on that perspective.

It also wouldn’t make sense once blizzard introduce more solo content that does award myth track / gilded crests, something I very much expect them to do. It just won’t be delves.

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then, here’s a thought. Maybe increase the rewards from mythics instead of gutting delves. And if players are skipping mythics to get to M7+ by doing delves, require them to do lower tier mythics and work their way up to stop it?

So you would have no issue with me saying delvers are all saying their gear they get from delves is meaningless?

As you go to higher difficulties. That doesn’t mean that the point where the gear is the same level should be tuned in such a way that delves can be done in level 70 gear from early the previous expansion.

Isn’t that what they’re about to do?

Speaking of that, Fauxstraza is missing out on this thread.

I imagine they have some lovely inputs seeing these conversations. :face_with_hand_over_mouth:

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i am saying there is a lot of vers gear, and there are no BiS pieces to my knowledge (could be wrong).

And getting crests to upgrade, via delves, would take forever.

There are drawbacks to delves and using that for gearing.

yes, as far as I can tell the plan is to make mythic more rewarding to get people to go to it, but there is fear (and a tiny contingent of loud barkers) that delves will be gutted to favor the mythic players.

Sounds like they need to find a new guild.

If having appropriate difficulty is gutting the content, then we can all hope for them to gut it asap, yes.

If it’s gutted, it’s only because it’s way too rewarding and quickly so. The only nerf I can see coming is to the rate of rewards.

And I’m saying you are. Ultimately the only reason delve gear isn’t bis or in consideration for bis is it’s ilvl.