Shadow and void are inseparable in WoW. Do remember that Shadow/void need not be affiliated to the Void Lords or old Gods or even insanity- it’s just a school and plane of magic like arcane is. Elune using shadow as an aspect of the moon wouldn’t really associate her with the Void Lords.
Note that Doom guards in Warcraft 3 called night elf stealth magic “Shadow powers” so I’m pretty sure it’s Shadow, besides the obvious name “Shadowmeld”.
On the other hand, I would be really happy if An’she actually existed as an entity. It would give the tauren a source of power, which they desperately need at this point, as they’re one of the weakest races of the Horde right now. It would also tie in well to the mythos of the Earth mother, at least in the sense that both An’she and Elune watch over her as she grows.
It would be great if blood elf priests had a connection to An’she too, although they still call him the Sun (much like the Lun’alai-Elune connection).
Tauren An’she being Blood Elf Belore would slap, especially if Phoenixes are clarified to be “sun” affiliated explicitly since that’s still a mystery to an extent (iis Alar a Fire Elemental? Wild God? who knows)
Eh. I guess if Elune is in fact a Progenitor and in fact created the Naaru by necessity she would have also created the Void Lords at least indirectly in order to set off the cycle between those forces, so Elune-related Shadow magic is valid. Just worried about how then by necessity, if Elune were to be say the “true origin” of Naaru and the Wild Gods/the Dream, then so too is Nyalotha ultimately rooted in Elune, if only technically.
I think differently here. Elune as first one, somehow understandable and would also correspond to what Metzen and Blizz said about her, as a true deity, but the Earth Mother is the main deity of the pantheon of the Tauren, the Titan, that’s a supernaturalism in the true sense, a real powerhouse, so to speak, a source of power on top of that, even the biggest in the whole universe, there was never a big mystery shot around An’She.
I blame Blizzard in both cases, but while the mystery of Elune was becoming a fan favorite, neither Belore nor An’She did anything like that to make it interesting. Besides, in An’She and Belore they are always jumping between existing and non-existing.
Or both could be that races name for the same god. It happened in real life all the time, how multiple “gods” from different cultures were often pretty similar to one another just with a different names
Why not both? My problem with the Earth mother, but also probably a good thing, is that it remains an abstract concept- it isn’t very clear if the Earth Mother is the elemental spirit of Earth, or the Titan Azeroth, though in most likelihood it is both. But because it’s such an abstract concept, her powers are very ill defined. We see Cairne invoke her power once in Warcraft 3, and it is presumed that some tauren priests use her power as well.
With An’she existing as a sentient entity, the tauren have access to possibly a more powerful force and can shine in their own right by affirmation of their own devotion to the Sun-God.
This was what I was getting at. High and blood elves have always revered the sun and its symbolism has always existed in their culture. I would like to see them attuned to an An’she even if not outright drawing greater power from him as the tauren do. A more passive form of worship against the tauren active form.
But I wouldn’t like it…as I said, only because Elune could be a first one, that all unanswered “powers” like Belore or An’she should also be first one, I would find it rather …boring. Especially because they all existed as a concept and even then it was said that Elune was the only true goddess. It would just…weaken the status of Elune, take something of the unique that it should have.
I violently disagree, I think rendering Elune the only absolute true deity in the conventional sense makes WoW into one giant Neo-Wiccan fantasy, One True God but make it Lunar Mom.
Adding a dimension of a Solar Deity that is distant/aloof/vague whiel the Lunar deity is personal/always involved/well shaped is a good balance, especially if they add Tauren/Blood Elf centric depth, give Elune and all her depth (eg Tears of Elune, Heart of Light bit, etc) is all Alliance-centric.
Give the moon to Alliance, keep it that way, but give Horde the sun.
Well he called on the Earth Mother to trap the centaur in a ravine and keep them from chasing his people. He pretty much summoned an earthquake like AU Drek’thar did in WoD without being a shaman.
Elune is only as powerful as the writers make her to be. She could be supreme deity and with writer constraints none of those powers would be expressed. Just look at Tyrande currently or Cenarius.
I’m only suggesting that tauren be given greater power in the setting because they are really weak right now, and An’she would be a good means to do that. I don’t think Elune needs to be a super deity because we already know her powers so it’s not going to change much. The same applies to An’she except that tauren get a little buff in the form of sun magic.
It’s also logical that the sun and moon exist as a duo in the universe.
Yeah but it’d be more fun that way. Tauren in Cataclysm specifically wanted to focus more on An’she precisely to have “balance” in contrast to Nelves/Druids/Elune.
Let Tauren be special, and Blood Elves adjacently special.
Because it’s not really about another enchantment of the story but about some factional equality, I don’t think it’s very “enchanting” when in an addon where Elune’s being gets more focus than a mention of taking this stage and saying: Belore=An’She…or some crap like that.
Because it’s not really about another enchantment of the story but about some factional equality, I don’t think it’s very “enchanting” when in an addon where Elune’s being gets more focus than a mention of taking this stage and saying: Belore=An’She…or some crap like that.
When blizz say that Elune is the only real deity, I expect something special and not a split spot. That’s my point.
