Participation imbalance =/= population imbalance.
Stop trying to equate them as the same.
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The problem with this assumption is that you’re assuming players switching factions are a blind assortment that reflects the makeup of the playerbase.
The reality is that the players who used to participate on the Alliance side transferred to the Horde and thus the Alliance now lacks participation because the ones who participated now are participating on the Horde.
This is evident by the rankings in raiding as I demonstrated by comparing rankings of guilds from mid TBC to present day. It can be inferred that a similar event took place for PvP as a number of raiders also participate in PvP on the side.
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You’ve already replied to comments that specifically state we are both talking about the fact that participation is the issue. The players who would participate don’t exist on Alliance, they’ve transfered to Horde.
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Hardly, we have historical information from the past that explains it.
When MoP was released and people screamed about LFR, Blozzard explained the reason. According to blizzard, a single percentage accounted for raiders. Double that percentage pvped regularly.
So this very, limited group is easily missed when they swap.
As such, when you have 90% of each faction not participating and your singular percentage moves, it makes it reasily apparent the lack.of raiders/pvpers that are actually present.
Hence, why this issue has always been ablut participation.
Your assertion previously was participation imbalance is indicated by a population imbalance. These concepts are mutually exclusive from the other, as the areas of participation stem from an extreme minority of participants for both sides.
If one wishes to resolve the issue, increasong participation will be necessary.
I like the idea of 10 man raid teams. Are large issue in raid participation is often getting enough bodies together.
I have to go to bed for the eve. Long trip. Will reply when i get a comp
The problem with that is you’re expecting people to increase the participation of those who aren’t even interested in participating.
And if you do manage to get them to participate, then we’re still stuck in the same situation in that there’s just more and better opportunities for them to raid on Horde side.
It isn’t a matter of getting Horde players to go Alliance or for Alliance players to “participate”. The issue is to stop the flood of Alliance players from feeling the need to go to Horde in order to participate in end-game content. Until that is fixed, anything else would just be doomed to repeat this problem.
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As funny as this was and as dumb as you ended up looking, I would never try and use a meme to cover up me lying, or have a post that might imply that.
I have countless characters, I’ve played on both factions, and have had many, many accounts.
This is one bnet account
https://i.imgur.com/WOAHPYt.jpg
Here is another
https://i.imgur.com/uXkkskI.jpg
Combing through them for old achieves now, I know one of the older ones got hacked and I couldn’t get it back because it’d been too long, I have included however the email stating it was taken from my over a decade ago, and that was in 2018.
https://i.imgur.com/UjTnqB8.png
Just so we’re clear that wasn’t a smokescreen of some kind, you just look dumb.
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On a side note, my forum avatar finally updated and nolonger shows I’m in a guild called <Cute Panda Girl>. So much less awkward now.
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Exactly.
A certain type of person does this content, and those people are no longer on this faction. He is correct, the issue is participation, he is just wrong in thinking that for some reason these people have just willfully decided that regardless of the fact that they would love to raid, they are so demoralized by the fact that they are Alliance they just can’t do it.
We did it team.
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Cool so why aren’t you going to main Alliance?
After all, there’s nothing stopping you, right?
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One thing I hadn’t seen mentioned (and I admit I skimmed) is that it was very easy to swap faction in WoD and Legion due to gold raining from the sky. I server transfered about 10 alts just with token money, though I did not race change them. Still, if you wanted to, it was really easy. With Blizzard choking off the gold, it would not be so easy for the average joe to swap now. Who knows, maybe that was part of why they did so in BFA.
why would i switch for no reason?
Bingo. Why would anyone else?
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I challenge.
It seems like there are several, including the game director who have this as their sole goal.
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that was kinda my point.
Comments like this are so dumb, it’s hard to take people like you serious. What would he gain by trying to actively destroy WoW except no job that pays him insanely well?
I don’t doubt Ion’s intention, just his ability to create anything outside of a game experience by raid loggers for raid loggers. He lacks perspective on what make a good gameplay experience outside of what he personally enjoys.
“Game director that destroyed the most successful MMO in history” will make a great conversation point on his resume.
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This is a very naive and childish way of thinking about this.
You do realize there is a whole team of people developing WoW, right? He’s not the sole guy coming up with all the ideas and putting all these ideas in the game.
Not to mention that the problem started rolling back in Cata when a raiding guild made a big splash where they did firelands, faction transferred and did firelands a second time in one week. Ion wasn’t even game director back then.
Basically he was handed the game with this problem dropped into his lap.
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Silly me, thinking that the “Game Director” directs the direction of the game.
All of his predecessors left their mark on the classes and stories that make up WoW. His inability to do so effectively does not make him any less responsible in the same way.
We fondly remember and occasionally deride the previous GD’s for their decisions, why would Ion be immune when he is the worst to date?
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