The Economy is in the Toilet! S.O.S to Blizzard!

I don’t get the GDKPers hoarding gold is deflationary argument, because what would they be spending that gold on in the alternative? Or going further, would as much goal be farmed in the first place on an old server if there wasn’t demand for liquidity for raid bidding?

Either way, I hope they are not deflationary because deflation is actually worse than inflation for new players who get in late. Some inflation shows the game is booming.

On a mature server, can’t some of the proceeds from services like boosting or GDKPs be recycled back into the RMT market? You can have a similar RMT volume with less raw gold farming by bots and less inflation.

everything on the AH, which is why we’re seeing abnormally high AH prices right now lol :expressionless:

GDKPers wouldn’t have hoards of gold on anniversary at this point because the server is fresh. Clearly we were talking about hoards of gold on WMC. What is there to spend money on for geared toons on an old server?

People lost any credibility on this matter once they blamed the RMT on week 2 on the absence of GDKPs. Raids weren’t even out yet! If someone wanted to buy gold to afford a week 2 LHH or edgemasters or epic mount, they would have done so on a GDKP server too.

Let’s just quickly review the assumptions behind “GDKPs decrease the amount of gold bought on a server” vs. “GDKPs increase the amount of gold bought on a server”. Let’s stay some players buy gold to take shortcuts to improve their toons (epic mount, buying BoEs, buying consumes) without taking the effort to earn that gold in game. What is more likely:

  • Once you invite them to GDKPs they’ll stop cheating and be content with gradually building up their wealth via careful spending and earning GDKP cuts. (GDKPs reduce gold buying)

  • Once you invite them to GDKPs they will again try to use bought gold as a shortcut to character progression. (GDKPs increase gold buying)

I’m leaning towards option 2, “cheaters gonna cheat” and “in for a penny, in for a pound”.

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Glad to see someone finally admitting that the gdkp ban didn’t do anything

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a lot of players see how much gold they’re making in GDKPs and thus see no need to waste USD on gold. this is a thing that cannot be denied :expressionless: now the average player has no means of easily making that much gold, and the number of buyers are through the roof. gold sellers are having a field day with anniversary, dude. it’s crazy.

Thus see no need to waste any more USD on gold after the initial “buy-in”

Seems you are conflating Era and Anniversary.

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Why brag about not knowing how to make gold on a fresh server

The economy on nightslayer is fine. Price skyrocket on tuesday but go down the rest of the week.

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Everyone here who says they were making enough in GDKPs also says they were never buying gold in the first place because they know how to make gold in game. Anyone who swipes to get an advantage is going to keep doing so even if they start making more gold, because those around them are also making more and they are trying to keep that advantage. It doesn’t need to be a lot of USD, just a bit more than they spent before.

You may say that’s not how people are, yet you have no evidence than my description applies to fewer gold buyers than your description, and at least mine shows consistency in their character.

If ‘gold buyers buy more gold’ is nothing, sure.

I can’t figure out what point you’re trying to make, but that sucks or good for you w/e applies

The point is that you can understand the convenience of GDKPs and enjoy them in Era while also not being in denial about their effect of the economy… Not sure why that’s so hard to get.

Clearly they have on effect on the economy based on all available data.

Blizzard has financial motivation to allow the bots and bot nets to continue operations.

The issues these bots produce for the players is light work compared to the money Big B is bringing in through Accounts and you CAN’T tell me not one employee isn’t in on the gold trade.

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You don’t have data in a true A/B test. You don’t even know the true RMT volume. But you have basic economic principles saying adding more desirable uses for a commodity, like in-game gold, should increase demand for it. Everything else is smoke and mirrors.

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100%

The fact of the matter is people in support of GDKP’s either want to buy gold to buy items in those GDKP’s, or they want to get a cut of RMT bought gold via their GDKP cut.

That’s it, GDKP’s with no gold buyers are not worth the time for payouts, with gold buyers the payouts are so large it becomes required because everything else in the game cannot compete with cuts from gold buyers.

The pro GDKP BS arguments are just that, completely contradictory.

They say “Well people don’t really buy gold in GDKP’!!! It’s not all gold buyers!!!”

And then in the same breath they say

“Well, if I do GDKP’s I can make so much gold that I can compete with gold buyers and don’t have to farm gold”

^ Those two statements are 100% BS and contradictory.

Are GDKP’s filled with non-gold buying users, and therefore low payouts that aren’t really worth the time compared to other farms?

OR

Are GDKP’s filled with gold buyers to the point where you can get so much gold from your cut you can compete with the gold buyers and not be encouraged to buy gold yourself?

These people keep claiming the same contradictory BS that somehow there’s no gold buyers in GDKP’s, but somehow the pots and cuts are magically so big they also don’t have to farm and are able to compete with gold buyers just by running GDKP’s

It’s just all BS, they either want to swipe, or get a cut from the swipers, That’s it.

The only thing more idiotic is these people claiming

“Oh gold sellers and botters are anti-GDKP!!!”

As if gold sellers and botters are against their biggest most sustained customer base purchasing the largest amounts of gold specifically to buy items in GDKP’s.

The reason everything they’re saying makes no sense and is contradictory, is because it’s complete BS.

You bought gold

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Nope, I hate gold buyers and hope every single one gets banned, along with the botters and gold sellers, and this stupid GDKP nonsense that all bastardize the game.

Good thing is GDKP’s already got banned, so step 1 is complete.