The Economy is in the Toilet! S.O.S to Blizzard!

Devilsaur leather. Go on ahead and check your AH prices. I know what they are on alliance.

I generally make between 4-600g a day with some light farming. If i dedicate heavy time to it, 1000+ a day. (yes I am saying i make between 150-200g/hr)

because bots and gold sellers cannot compete with real players for this resource unlike flowers, RTVs, etc

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How are you going to afford them when you’re leveling, and you haven’t got you mounts yet. If nothing you’re trying to sell makes anything bc its flooded with bots farming it? WoW wasn’t originally made for dual spec at this point in the game, this many bots, gold sellers and 20k people on a server with layers not spawning anything correctly?

Ok so say “go skinning and do devilsaurs”

That’s pretty good if you’ve done it since the launch, but with competition that definitely can be affected, and the numerous layers helps a lot.

As the phases go on that’ll dry up real quick but if you have that much now who cares good for you.

But if anyone isn’t skinning… then what is a fair question.

I’m still wondering what exactly people are struggling to afford?

It is definitely not an “afk farm” and requires engineering, certain consumables, etc.

not for everyone

Yep, I drop it and go DE or mining next.

Nothing thats worth it. I think people are talking about wanting extra liquid gold, not just getting by every week with a few raid pots

That has nothing to do with the state of the economy, though.

“The economy” does not mean you are entitled to sell goods for a profit, buy goods at a discount, and still have enough money for a mount at 40.

You are the economy. If goods are inflated, undercut your competition and sell high. If goods are deflated, buy low and use them yourself. For anything else, make a judgement call about what you value most.

I don’t dispute that RMT and botting have changed the economy. But it’s not ruined, it’s just different. Like trying to buy out-of-season vegetables at a premium and blaming it on “the economy”.

Every raid is doable without buffs, flasks, enchants, proper gear, proper comp, lack of knowledge, etc.

Doesn’t mean we want to sit in a 6 hours MC.

Just because you’re content being dog :poop: doesnt mean the rest of us do.

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If I was a healer I would be selling my services in arena, 5g per run and 100g if it drops. Tanks can reserve orbs and do strat live runs over and over with 58’s. Mining/herbing mara is like 20-30g an hour if you want to be lazy. Have alchemy/LW/tailoring and make gold every cd. Buy mighty rage potions on monday morning for 2g and sell them for 4g on raid nights. Very ez stuff

Making gold is EZ. I made 1k gold in a day as a rogue.

If you can’t make gold you are just lazy or bad.

this is the fact that anti-GDKPers never address and always avoid… :expressionless:

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Adding back GDKP will just make it worse.

This is the fact the GDKP nerds don’t understand.

Cope and seethe you can’t GDKP.

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“If gdkp is in the game people will have enough gold to boost their alts so I can’t gank them over and over” fixed that for you

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I do not buy gold, and I suspect that you’re very wrong.

Reason being if GDKP were the driving force behind gold buying then how come there aren’t any bots farming gold on WMC that I can find? I mentioned this because bots and gold farmers are needed for gold sellers to do what they do.

Also it’d be good to remember that GDKP players are likely just like most players who are driven by loot. With that common desire who’s to care of an item buy out is 1000 gold or 100000 gold if they’re all a part of the GDKP economy?

I bring that up before I was like you and didn’t understand what actually went on in their runs, but turns out its basically just traditional DKP like any old school guild, excluding the inflation of DKP doesn’t get insane because the DKP also buys repairs, consumables, crafting mats, helps level skills and is transferable to your own alts.

GDKP isnt the problem tho, it just illuminated the issue that has and does exist in WoW and that is the lazy and worthless raid loggers who dont want to craft or play, but only care about parsing 2 hrs a week and dont care at all how their gold buying destroys the game.

It is and always has been Gold buyers buying consumables that kills the game economy, and this cannot be more clearly shown than by the fact that NS’s Economy is now more inflated than a 4 year Old server.

I think the real hate for GDKP is by gold buyers who can’t afford to just buy gear because gold prices prohibit the purchase of raid loot at the leading edge.

I also suspect that the Gold sellers hate DGKP because once the players get involved they have no need to buy gold anymore.

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Enjoy not doing naxx.

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That sound like something you regurgitate every time there’s a word against your private party pay 2 wins.

yup, this all makes sense :expressionless:

Sounds like something a gold seller or gold buyer would say to protect their investment.

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What people always forget is that inflation is not one-way - the guy out farming copper also sees his take increase.

This isn’t arguing in favor of it - but to act like it only hurts people is silly. If you are a hard working farmer of raw mats, you can make a killing.

The problem, really, is the people who expect to vendor a few instance trash green and blue drops every day to remain solvent. Yes, you are SOL.

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it drastically alters the game for the worse when you can sell a stack of copper for 20g :expressionless:

The wildest most Bass backwards take is that gold sellers are anti-gdkp.

Gold sellers benefit the most from the GDKP system as it causes the largest gold purchases from gold buyers who want to buy items for massive bids in GDKP’s over a sustained period.

It’s just idiotic to claim that gold sellers don’t like the reason for their largest most consistent sales.

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There are more carrys than buyers. carrys arent buying gold