The day Classic + turned into retail -

[Aguy-grobbulus]

@Soak-wild-growth

Im not gunna tag the hundreds of posts that players posted asking for the server to not roll into tbc.

Servers not progressing to TBC and having live Vanilla servers are not mutually exclusive.

[Aguy-grobbulus]

@Gaaki-lava-lash

Tbf, #NoChanges lost a lot of credibility when they started requesting things like spellbatching and leeway

I’d take that over this 10/10. I don’t think no changes was done perfectly, but it keeps us from cash shops, level boosts, and the like.

[Goodglinda-mankrik]

@Aguy-grobbulus

If they just listened to the players that Classic was created for in the first place

Classic was created for Blizz’s lawyers to protect their IP.

Full stop.

Everything else is fantasy.

[Aguy-grobbulus]

Yeah I realize full well they were just covering themselves legally, and weren’t releasing it out of goodwill to their community.

It actually explains all their actions since vanilla.

[Armaks-tichondrius]

What is stopping you and your guild to progressively level at your wanted pace? Its like you have the option and means to do what you want, however its not enough. Era is literally right there.

[Goodglinda-mankrik]

@Aguy-grobbulus

It actually explains all their actions since vanilla.

Corporations gonna corporate.

[Sawbones-chaos-bolt]

@Goodglinda-mankrik

@Aguy-grobbulus

If they just listened to the players that Classic was created for in the first place

Classic was created for Blizz’s lawyers to protect their IP.

Full stop.

Everything else is fantasy.

what lol thats not how it works

[Felpickle-illidan]

Wow you guys are still whining jeez go to work or something.
Wah wah
/10

[Goodglinda-mankrik]

@Sawbones-chaos-bolt

thats not how it works

Enjoy your fantasy.

[Aguy-grobbulus]

@Armaks-tichondrius

What is stopping you and your guild to progressively level at your wanted pace?

In Era? I don’t have a guild that follows me to whatever experience I want to have. I join active progressive servers and integrate with the community.

There are pockets available for what you’re describing, but it doesn’t change that the game is on its last phase, and integrating into a finished game is a lot more difficult than integrating into a progressing one.

[Soak-wild-growth]

Im generally confused to what youre saying. You have access to the full game on the wow classic era server. Unless youre saying that you dont want access to the content, you want to force other players to start over with you in phase 1.

I dont think we have the playerbase mentality in the very small group if people wanting classic only experiences to do what everquest does with TLP’s.

[Killorx-grobbulus]

Keep spamming the same stuff man. You’re a bad troll

[Prøphet-stormrage]

Because most of us don’t have endless hours to grind anymore. We’re mostly adults with responsibilities. Go play Classic WoW if that’s what you want. Stop crying.

[Aguy-grobbulus]

@Soak-wild-growth

You have access to the full game on the wow classic era server.

In a sense it’s really not the “full game” as phases 1-5 are already gone. The “full game” transpires over ~20 months. You can’t join at month 60 and say you’re getting the full game.

@Soak-wild-growth

you want to force other players to start over with you in phase 1.

I can’t and wouldn’t force players to do anything. There are tons of players who are interested in playing fresh Vanilla 2019 servers. It’s weird you insinuate I’m the only one who wants this, or that the current Era population is the whole of the Vanilla Classic community.

@Soak-wild-growth

I dont think

Uhuh.

[Felpickle-illidan]

Wah wah
/10

[Aguy-grobbulus]

@Prøphet-stormrage

Go play Classic WoW if that’s what you want.

Until a day ago, SoD was “Classic World of Warcraft: Season of Discovery”. So that’s what we were doing.

Now it’s “Retail Minus: Season of Discovery”.

[Soak-wild-growth]

@Aguy-grobbulus

I can’t and wouldn’t force players to do anything. There are tons of players who are interested in playing fresh Vanilla 2019 servers. It’s weird you insinuate I’m the only one who wants this, or that the current Era population is the whole of the Vanilla Classic community.

You cant sit here and say WE as if you represent the classic community as a whole, and then distance yourself when people say YOU while framing an argument against said community.

[Swut-lone-wolf]

@Aguy-grobbulus

Keep the game Classic. Keep modernization out of it. I think P1 SoD did this really well.

That’s gotta be a joke, right?

Spamming nearly free spells on a short cd.
Constantly waiting for procs of this or that.
Race/profession choices being made less relevant (more “balanced”).
Supply crates as artificial demand.
The stealth nerf to all vanilla spells not affected by runes.

This was the p1 spirit of classic?

[Prøphet-stormrage]

It’s definitely still closer to Classic+. Retail minus would be SOOOOOO much more inflated.

[Aguy-grobbulus]

@Soak-wild-growth

You cant sit here and say WE as if you represent the classic community as a whole

And you can?? You seem to have no trouble inferring what players want.

@Soak-wild-growth

and then distance yourself when people say YOU while framing an argument against said community

??? What?!

I’m not distancing myself from the Classic community by saying that I wouldn’t force anyone to play it. I don’t think anyone would because that’s a pants on head crazy projection you came to all on your own.