The day Classic + turned into retail -

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Lol or just go the bottom of their report xD

https://investor.activision.com/news-releases/news-release-details/activision-blizzard-announces-fourth-quarter-and-2022-financial

Well, looks like Ironforge is just blatantly wrong then. Warcraft logs is absolute. It is data, not estimates. Data does not lie. Accept it, or cope.

Perhaps, but Iā€™ve generally trusted them so Iā€™ll stick with their estimates unless I am willing to really dive into numbers myself, which I donā€™t care to do at the moment.

They have more incentive to be correct and time spent on the issue than any of us.

I have a Level 14 Warrior on Westfall Era that Iā€™ve been ā€œjourneyingā€ on. Not that it will ever match up to this Warrior in DF that started January 2007 right as BC droppedā€¦

you dont have to dive into anything. Iā€™ve posted a link multiple times which you have continued to disregard.

Oh thatā€™s a nice metric, maybe my estimates are bit low, but I would still be surprised if daily users passes 1 mil in DF until they release next expansion.

my logs https://i.imgur.com/lPj5uuw.jpeg

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Are you summing up all those ā€œparsesā€ on the table.

If you are, you probably need to divide by number of bosses in the raid as well.

Active users really holds little weight compared to active subscribers, which is not up and peaked thanks to vanilla WoW. This is really just fact.

I need to sleep, honestly.

The December 27th update had 750,000 downloads. Not everyone uses DBM or updates all the time either. Lots of casual players, as well as players from China who get their addons from their own cn domain websites. Thereā€™s also people who use bigwigs or people who use weakauras packs instead of DBM.

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Okay, so letā€™s do the math, because that may be why both our metrics arent lining up
I added in the healer parses

Puts the metric to about 3million over 2 weeks. Divide that by 6 (6 bosses in raids) which is 500k
500k over 14 days does look like about 200k raiders, so ironforge does look correct then.

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Well I look at your link and I see dmb with 450mil, raider io with 300 mil, and damage meter with 200 mil, so I think I am seeing total downloads all time.

I think youā€™re right. Iā€™m sleepy.

Also, most raiders no longer use DBM on retail. Bigwigs is becoming more popular. To get an accurate data count youā€™d want to total up bigwigs and DBM. And then thereā€™s also Littlewigs for M+. A better addon to look at would probably be something like Details or Weakauras as most people use these.

Do you have a link to see downloads per version or do I just click into a specific version?

Ok. Iā€™ve fixed myself. Sorry for that.
The newest version of details has 1.2 million downloads on its latest release.
Released on the 19th.
https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/details/files/5120901

This.

so if we added that 1.2mill with the total from skada and recount (other damage meters) we could probably get an active metric for how many accounts are at least keeping their addons up to date, which is a solid metric.

Is that wotlk + retail?

Thatā€™s what it shows when i hover over the ā€™ * WotLK Classic + 2ā€™