The crusade against Raiders has to stop

~https://imgur.com/a/h2MXb0B

Seriously, multiple threads constantly demanding the death of raiding. Every single day. Raiding isn’t the only activity in the game, but they are the most iconic activity that has been here since the beginning and made this game great.

The raiding community is already dwindling due to the multiple sources of high item level gear and the removal of tier sets and trinkets that are actually good.

I don’t recall the community being like this in earlier expansions such as BC and Wrath. Is this some modern instant-gratification community that has taken over? How does raiding gate anything? The game is more accessible now than it ever has been.

If raiding was gone or cut down to one difficulty or something, I would have no reason to play this game, and I’ve been playing since 2005 through the good and the bad.

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lol @ the word usage. Crusade!? Invaders!!! Russians!!!

Your talking points have zero impact in game, enjoy your moment.

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I have literally never seen a thread demanding any raiding content be removed, except LFR.

So if this is a thread defending LFR then sure I agree. LFR is fine as is.

Otherwise I have no idea what your talking about.

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TBF the cow has a point. Tauren are so far the only race whose heritage armor is tied to a raid boss victory. So that thread isn’t so much about death to raiding, as pls Blizzard stop forcing us to play along with your terrible storytelling.

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signed,

The guy who has killed 3 bosses total on LFR this entire expansion.

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A couple of points.

One, three threads doesn’t make a crusade.

Two, one of those three threads is about non-raiders having to do raid content to complete their single-player experience, not a gripe about raiders.

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Most people who don’t raid would stop complaining about raiders if raiders stopped trying to dictate how we play, what loot we can get, and what we can do.

Want us out of your business? Get out of ours.

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Honestly, we could do without one tier of raiding. Remove N, it serves no purpose. LFR is for the experience only, and then H and M have their achievements.

Normal can be removed with no great loss.

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Literally what world do you live in where this happens?

The only truth to your statement is the fact that raiders do complain about the loot non-raiders get. But not out of jealousy, but because it devalues raiding and further reduces raid participation, making it harder to recruit people. But that’s an entirely different issue.

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Raiding is a minority community, and story stuff like Heritage Armor shouldn’t be gated behind raiding because it’s a minority activity. It’s always been a minority community, at least since Wrath.

That said, I see no reason to interfere with raiding either. It’s a perfectly legitimate activity that many people love and hold dearly. Just because it’s not the primary form of engagement for the majority masses doesn’t mean there’s anything wrong with it.

I’d just like it if they put raiding content behind raids and not stuff like heritage armor.

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People who do LFR or gear up from Warfronts weren’t going to go do raids to begin with.

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:sunglasses: :popcorn:

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Because I do not care to raid, nor go on “crusades” to stop an obvious elitist from raiding. The original rant you made has nothing to do with my progression, it has to do with your hyperbole. You know it, that was your way of deflecting.

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Why is it too much to ask for someone to do an activity they typically don’t do? I hate pet battles, but they give rewards/rep that I need to further my raiding goals.

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Guess you missed the countless threads for when Master Loot was removed.

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“This users public profile is hidden”

I see what you did there…fellow raider.

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I agree with OP, there seems to be widespread lambasting and crusading going around against raiding these days.

I hypothesize it’s something to do with the world first race highlighting the content, and people sharing their hatred because they misinterpret passion for elitism.

Also for those saying it’s not a crusade, your pope doesn’t have to send you on a holy quest against the Saracens to qualify something as a crusade.

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Or how about this point of view

New or returning player hits 120. Wants to progress his/her character because this is an MMO. Notices that World Quests and Warfronts give the same ilvl gear and can rngforge into the best gear, all while playing solo. Why spend more time for the same reward?

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But those weren’t to remove raiding entirely like the op suggests. That was just a loot assigning system, that honestly I didn’t poke my nose into much because I rarely raid.

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I dunno…maybe the one you describe in the quote below?

Is this not EXACTLY you trying to force people to play the way YOU want them to, because you want them to raid?

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