"That's really a skill issue."

We’re not talking about 70 item level differences. We’re talking about players blaming 7-13 item levels for being hard stuck.

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And you would be pretty wrong, if you are trying to make a general statement.

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Yeah for sure. I had meant there was a video going around if rank 1s on alts in like 160 gear unable to reach 1600 as if it’s a bad thing.

Oh so now you want to revise your terms lol. “enough skill can overcome any gear disparity”

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I stand by that. I watched a rank 1 shadow priest carry a 1400 pally to 1650 wearing 190 gear. I watched him destroy warrior/hpal teams with 30+ item levels on him.

Sure. That probably IS how they actually say, “Get good,” in Cambridge.

True, but the first KSM players were like 195 or something. I don’t know what the ilvl was for the first few teams that cleared the raid, but I don’t think they were 226 nor did they have access to full soulbinds. We’ve had the gear to do all this stuff for a long, long time but that’s not all that matters.

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Oh yeah, I’m not talking about PvE at all. Very different thing.

I don’t think that dev’s quote is about pvp though.

1600 at ilvl 227?, you don’t pvp at all do you.

I don’t think you’ve tracked the conversation in this thread.

Ion has an honor level of 5, and sucks at his class.

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Not in pvp.

I guess it wouldn’t be the first time that the posts in a thread have nothing to do with the title lol. Fair enough.

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Conversations drift. It happens in every form of discourse.

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idk i see a few posts about this but zero source so far.
why not include a source when the news is about juicy drama? :slight_smile:

He doesn’t have any recent “rated” PvP experience either… nothing shows up when you mouse over the 2v2, 3v3, and 10v10 sections of his armory/profile page.

His armory seems to suggest that he doesn’t PvP at all, which explains his being out of touch with us peasants having to deal with 2-shotting Pallies, 1-shot Rogues, and Convoke Boomkins in our everyday PvP activities.

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He’s not even a good pver look at his parses lol.

You can’t hit 1800 let alone 1600 in 3s without a major struggle. There are way too many boosters and carries going on. R1s are sitting their mains at 3342(rating decay was taken out, so their r1 is safe) and using 227 ilvl alts (easy for them to reach 2400 then tank)

Presumably that’s the only toon he has that’s “public”. He must have people that know about pvp that work for him.