that is the thing. it is what you felt. I openly acknowledged that I understand there are things to be fixed or adjusted.
my whole point is centered on the idea that a simple ranking doesn’t paint the whole picture. I’m not trying to discount how the spec feels or plays for you.
I’m simply stating that relativity isn’t just for space time and gravity. You feel its way worse because you are close to it. The folks making decisions are distanced a bit and the picture they see isn’t as terrible a the one you see.
Guys if you are the fastest fat kid at the olympics you can beat other fat kids that aren’t fast.
But if you race against the slowest skinny kid you could possibly win as the fastest fat kid. But if the kids are skinny and fast you lose.
That kid aboves logic. At some point wouldnt you expect just to be the fastest skinny kid so you actually matter. Especially as a pure dps class that offers the pvp team very little in regards to survivability. Pretty sure an off healer who can heal a dungeon boss shouldnt out damage me and my 30 k exhil on a 2 minute cd(which also has to be used to save my pet)
Disclaimer I’m a fat fast kid.
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You said it peipeimon, it would be one thing if we could easily switch covenants and the surging shots kyrian thing was going to bring us back to where we were, but neither of those are true. I am really starting to think they make changes like this they are just hoping people will reroll and buy boosts.
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No it dosnt count for anything cause groups will always take a fire mage or boomie over a hunter
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There still is a problem if you have to compare well played characters to bad or mediocre one. I dont really care if i can beat a player who is less skilled. I care about comparing myself to players to my own skill niveau and this is what should matter.
A good fire mage beats a bad hunter every time.
A good fire mage beats a good hunter every time.
A good hunter might beat a bad fire mage.
This is not an ok situation, but some people just look at the last of those paragraphs and try to tell people that its fine…
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I don’t generally look at warcraft logs, and I don’t particularly care about that parsing aspect of the game, I just try to learn my class and get better, but I feel significantly weaker. I was actually kind of shocked tbh for this type of midseason nerf.
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Hopefully this will be a chance to buff other parts of each spec’s kit?
would it be an ok situation if the roles were reversed? someone “loses” in every one of those scenarios.
That isn’t at all what I am implying. I understand that new numbers do not favor hunter specs. I get that it can use adjustment. This isn’t going to be a 24 way tie though and as a hunter i can see how you want to be top, but for game balance and depth, you have to see how variance from rank to rank is more important than where a specific class falls in the hierarchy.
and this is a perfectly justifiable feeling. How are you feeling it though? is it an additional aimed shot needed to kill a boss? what type of DPS loss are you seeing from pre patch to now?
Well about 500 dps single target and about 700 dps over a mythic + run, if i compare to prepatch.
And just for reference thats at 222 ilvl
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Obviously not, why would you think so? The goal would be to make it so that two players of equal skill will be competing on even footing with different classes. But these are two different points that collide with hunters currently. The difference between best and worst spec should be lower regardless, but this is probably a pipe dream and wont ever happen.
The main issue is that they nerfed a specc that was already declining and has no other spec remotely viable. This is a thing that should be easily avoidable.
Ion hates hunters and he doesn’t want anyone to play it.
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Doing more damage than bad players playing meta classes still doesn’t change the fact that a group would be better off if you were playing almost any other dps.
Ion is a dribbling idiot that is so out of touch with the player base that he still cant figure out why their subscription numbers are dwindling. He should make a “meaninful choice” and resign.
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They actually have 3 in his raid, one of whom has been playing BM the whole time.
I’m well aware of that, I was just replying to the dude playing his alt as Kyrian and telling him why he did not notice a dps loss.
The correct way to do that would have been to buff BM in a playable state and not to nerf MM.
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Definately would have preferred that, i actually like the searing embers legendary, and i would totally play bm right now if the dps was more viable, played it all BFA after realizing marksman was crap.
Clearly he get’s out damaged by them.
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Ion is a carried greyparser that puts zero effort into his game and the balancing of wow
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To be fair BM is doing better, which isn’t saying much given how low it was but it has been improving.