Thank you, weirdly

[Sendryn-sentinels]

@Liadariel-runetotem

I used my boost, but if you don’t take one toon all the way to 70 you still can’t use one’s regular mounts.

Next expansion. This one still has Pathfinder.

[Liadariel-runetotem]

@Sendryn-sentinels

This one still has Pathfinder.

Not renown though, correct?

[Rosenivy-area-52 (Rosenivy)]

Good thing I wasn’t talking about those people.

I know right?

[Sendryn-sentinels]

Correct, just exploration and finishing storylines, I believe.

[Slotmachine-sargeras]

@Rosenivy-area-52

Good thing I wasn’t talking about those people.

I know right?

Same concept

[Rosenivy-area-52 (Rosenivy)]

Nope. If I wished to insult a very specific group of people. I would have said so.

Kinda how talking works. I don’t know how to be polite about this

[Boomerjoe-black-dragonflight]

Dido - Thank You (Lyrics)

[Saángreal-moon-guard (Saángreal)]

@Briselody-lightnings-blade

It’s wild to me to play a video game and then complain about having to play a video game.

This was nowhere, more observant than during this recent season of discovery.

Literally, every thing is about reading And discovery. Chat is 100% on fire with people asking where the most obvious things are.

I am still playing an RPG, right? These people would never have survived Morrowind and old text based games. The classic plus has been out two days and they’re already complaining about what’s best where I go what do I need?

And you know these are the same people who would probably complain There was nothing to do once they have everything within a few days. Then, ironically demand more content, but they want the content on auto pilot that completes itself

SMH

[Drexigan-illidan]

Imagine paying extra to go slower rofl

[Slotmachine-sargeras]

@Rosenivy-area-52

Nope. If I wished to insult a very specific group of people. I would have said so.

But you did , you dont know why the person cant do dragon flying, theres always a reason behind everything,

[Opalunaiya-bleeding-hollow]

@Tnavi-moon-guard

I’m willingly to bet a lot the amount of people who quit the game because of dragon riding can be counted on two hands.

It’s a vocal minority.

It’s pretty easy to pretend to place a “bet” over something you know no one will ever have data on.

I bet that the vocal minority are the “players” who seem to be so overjoyed with it that they want Blizzard to eliminate normal flying and force those people pretending to have disabilities or impairments to get over it, just as you would have done if you were disabled or had mobility problems.

I bet that far more players left the game or abandoned dragonflight content than than Blizzard is willing to admit. In fact, I bet that they were surprised that it wasn’t nearly as popular as they thought it would be, and held out for a year before bringing back normal flight, thinking they’d adapt and get over it.

They spent money making a lot of halfway bandaid adjustments in the accessibility options, and still wanted people who had stopped playing because of their issues to do lots of content that required dragonriding. Which actually looked pretty bad.

[Snowpine-ghostlands]

@Rhielitychek-earthfury

people who have accessibility issues.

This is an extreme minority.

OP is throwing a hissy fit about Dragonriding, which has had various ways to avoid since 10.0. Flight paths, teleportation, as well as continual accessibility support.

Even WQs that use it do not require it these days.

[Baridorielor-malfurion (Baridorielor)]

@Bajer-bloodsail-buccaneers

Its amazing when people self-snitch that they can’t stand it that everyone doesn’t like their new favorite toy.

Kind of warms my heart to see that comment you’re responding to get flagged, and removed. We don’t need more harassment on the forums.

I know it sounds heartless, but any sympathy i had for those pro-dragonriders went straight out the window once they throw any semblance of civility out of the window.

[Baridorielor-malfurion (Baridorielor)]

@Hezzlocks-khazgoroth

But just simple point to point flying is so incredibly easy and fast.

And some people don’t want that.

@Hezzlocks-khazgoroth

If you made them the same speed, then of course people would choose normal flying, because dragonriding would be normal flying with extra steps and less control.

You’ve pretty much nailed that on the head there with the “Less control” bit. By saying “Less control” here, you pretty much nulled your own “It’s faster” point. Yet you still don’t understand why people dislike dragonriding.

The nerfing speed suggestion (While i do disagree with) is not too far off, given Blizzard is nerfing Dragonriding speed (not by a whole lot mind you) outside of Dragon Isles, and imma tell you, it feels pretty sluggish playing around with it in PTR.

[Stompypotato-durotan (Stompypotato)]

Hadn’t considered that. Got me rethinking preordering now

[Hezzlocks-khazgoroth (Hezzlocks)]

That’s the point though. You’re trading control for speed. And the control bit only matters for precision landing. If you can’t do that, then just use dragonflying for long distance travel, then normal mount (regardless of anything, I’m still a firm believer that both forms of flying should be accessible at the same time, not one or the other, but both) when you need a bit of control. Not that hard.

And even at 80% of its current speed, Dynamic flying is still so much faster than regular flying.

[Baridorielor-malfurion (Baridorielor)]

@Hezzlocks-khazgoroth

That’s the point though. You’re trading control for speed.

I rather have control then speed then.

@Hezzlocks-khazgoroth

And the control bit only matters for precision landing.

Which is needed all the time. Esp with the nodes, flags, and etc being on top of annoying places with dragonriding.

@Hezzlocks-khazgoroth

If you can’t do that, then just use dragonflying for long distance travel, then normal mount (regardless of anything, I’m still a firm believer that both forms of flying should be accessible at the same time, not one or the other, but both) when you need a bit of control. Not that hard.

Or they can improve dragonflying to have nearly the same controls as normal flying, with a hover function if the intent was to replace flying.

Or better yet, have a toggle button of static/dynamic button that can be added to the hotbars that can seamlessly be controlled during flight.

I mean if it’s so easy, why so many people dislike Dragonflying then? You don’t need to keep defending this just because you’re hyped. And idk what’s up with the implication you’re making that normal flying is somehow harder then dragonflying. Unless you aknowledge that normal flying is easier then dragonflying.

[Stompypotato-durotan (Stompypotato)]

Just looked at wowhead. The pathfinder there doesn’t mention renoun. Just the normal, complete the quests and explore. Does boosting to 70 fulfill all those requirements?.

[Rosenivy-area-52 (Rosenivy)]

Op never mentioned disabilities.

By using deduction. They’re more likely like the drama queens that didn’t even want to do the tutorial for dragonflight. Perfectly abled people mind you. They were just being children about it. THAT is what I was talking about

[Hezzlocks-khazgoroth (Hezzlocks)]

@Baridorielor-malfurion

@Hezzlocks-khazgoroth

And the control bit only matters for precision landing.

Which is needed all the time. Esp with the nodes, flags, and etc being on top of annoying places with dragonriding.

Agree to disagree on this. Those things are just once per expansion, and many of them are pretty easy to land on as it is. Most of the expansion, you really don’t need precision control. Except arguably for some herb / mining. But in that case most of the issue comes from vigor.

@Baridorielor-malfurion

@Hezzlocks-khazgoroth

If you can’t do that, then just use dragonflying for long distance travel, then normal mount (regardless of anything, I’m still a firm believer that both forms of flying should be accessible at the same time, not one or the other, but both) when you need a bit of control. Not that hard.

Or they can improve dragonflying to have nearly the same controls as normal flying, with a hover function if the intent was to replace flying.

The intent is not to replace flying. If it was, they would have been replacing regular flying everywhere on all mounts, rather than enabling regular flying in Dragon Isles. I still stand by both forms being enabled at the same time at all times, though.

@Baridorielor-malfurion

Or better yet, have a toggle button of static/dynamic button that can be added to the hotbars that can seamlessly be controlled during flight.

This I can agree with, and have thought and suggested this before, largely because I want all mounts to be Dragonflying enabled, ground mounts included (i’m tired of them being obsolete most of the time). And the only way to do that without outright removing normal flying, which again I stress I do not want, is to make it an optional setting / toggle.

@Baridorielor-malfurion

I mean if it’s so easy, why so many people dislike Dragonflying then? You don’t need to keep defending this just because you’re hyped.

“So many people” is not as many as you think it is. There’s a reason why its called a “loud minority”. People who enjoy dragonflying aren’t going to go out of there way to loudly and publicly state how much they enjoy it. But people who dislike it are most certainly going to loudly and publicly state how much they dislike it.

@Baridorielor-malfurion

And idk what’s up with the implication you’re making that normal flying is somehow harder then dragonflying. Unless you aknowledge that normal flying is easier then dragonflying.

I have no idea what the heck you are on about here. Neither of them are difficult. They just have different advantages and disadvantages, but neither of them are in any way, shape or form hard. Which has been my point the entire time in this thread, that dragonriding is not hard, and is at the very least good for long distance travel. You’re the one making this about things being difficult…

Look, at the end of the day, you do you. You prefer normal flying? Good for you. Use it. Its no skin off my nose. All I’ve been saying here is that dragonriding really is not as difficult as the complainers makes it out to be. I’m not gonna try to force you to do anything you don’t want to.

Now get off my back