Thank you Blizzard for the conduit change

Stop it.

Get some help.

These are still human beings.

They told us that feedback on flying was useless, and it we it changed even if not completely reversed.

They told us that feedback on asking for Classic was useless, and we have Classic.

There is no such thing as useless feedback if enough people persist on it.

If you think that I’m a high end player you should look at my armory.

My other characters don’t get a whole lot better than this.

and my feedback isn’t to actually remove the system anyway. I just have some issues with the specific way they’re implementing it.

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If anything, blindly accepting what they throw at us is how the game gets worse. Because what they think is good may not be good. I mean, I don’t know how many story ideas I’ve come up with that “this is gonna be awesome!” until I put it on paper and realize its nothing more than a boiled turd.

And Blizzard, in the belief they are right, has to be told when they deliver up boiled turds that we don’t WANT boiled turds. We want beautiful crystal sculptures!

That should probably be playing a game that is designed for them instead of trying to ruin games designed for rpg fans simply because their tryhard attitude ignores all RPG elements and having fun building a character

RPGs are not meant for people who are just gonna copy paste meta build and not play around with character building, PERIOD.

They can play the game and that is enough, they dont get to ruin our game because they are wannabe elitists

Nastiness is not the remedy for nastiness Ralph

They should be eradicated?

Like, seriously dude?

ITT: Ralph demands he should have rights over how other people play and enjoy the game. Maybe cause he is mad he got denied by a mythic guild.

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My opinion is that instead of buying carries from players who min/max effectively funding min/maxing yourself, you should spend your time hosting your own groups with your own “wear whatever you want” “play whatever build you want” standards.

Be the change you wanna see, don’t just point fingers and try to bring everyone down to your level. Stop getting carried and start carrying people!

The devs are following your advice : )

Community clearly is far too complacent to ever deal with the toxicity and tryhards? It is time for the devs to come in and attempt to fix it.

Also just leveled a druid to 120, gonna buy a m15 catchup gear boost : )

The problem with that is simple.

Tabletop … you can have a non-optimal build, but because you can be CREATIVE, you can still excel.

Online, you are limited to the raw numbers. You can only be as creative as the system will let you. And the system doesn’t ENCOURAGE creativity. Because there are empirical hard numbers that you cannot overcome.

Does it mean I think the meta is a good thing? No. It discourages creativity. However, at the same time, there’s NOTHING we can do about it. Because we are using a system with restrictions that we cannot overcome.

We cannot overcome the fact that an item level 430 two handed sword has +500 Strength. NOTHING, save an RNG socket, can change that sword to have more than +500 Strength.

We are limited, and so the meta is how we get the most out of a restrictive system.

People are still going to try and be better than you no matter what they put in the game. There is always going to be something differentiating them from you that will prevent you from doing the content they do. Small changes the devs make aren’t changing the overall nature of group content. You’re looking too far into them and pretending the impact is going to be greater than it is for the result you want to see.

You need to stop pointing fingers and start acting. Put up a group in LFG and drag some non-meta, low IO, poorly geared players through some 15s.

Or are you all talk?

Thanks for the gold.

False, Ion and the team balanced the raids and m+ to be completed by non optimal comps and players, therefore not only is stacking broken meta optimal classes and comps in raids and m+ remove a big part of the challenge, it is also easymode.

Game aint balanced around tryharding, try again.

The impact will be that people wont ever be able to be fully optimal for everything, they can choose the covenant that does well in ST but that is just optimal for a few bosses, other ones will be optimal for other bosses, others for m+

Aka nobody can have the most optimal build at all times by changing things back and forth

Who is changing stuff for every single boss and, more importantly, who cares? Instead of trying to rationalize these convoluted limitations, more people should be asking ‘is this really necessary?’

Uh, dummy, optimization is relative to the game. There will always be a most optimal build.

And why are you ignoring my call to action? Go do something about the toxicity you keep spamming about. Go host learning groups, teach people how to play non meta in keys, go drag a bunch of poorly geared, poorly spec’d players through some content.

Stop pointing fingers and go be useful. Right now, all you are is a fly buzzing around

Ah yes, dem serious arguments again, sorry cant rly bother with people who think “nobody cares” is a serious answer xD

I know, the thing is the optimal one will be different covenant for each boss or dungeon so tryhards dont get to change between bosses : )

I am supporting the devs in their quest to make tryhards learn to play RPGs instead of stacking meta and playing fotm : )

not really, cause they all have 3 potency conduits now, and the intrinsic passives aren’t enough to stop you from having content specific builds

3 potency conduits doesnt mean you get to choose the DPS soulbind passive, utility and defense conduits will still be behind DPS soulbind passives. In addition many conduits arent that interesting and can be overshadowed by some soulbind passives, the 3dps conduits isnt a must for many specs

And my point is that yeah, soulbinds like talents can be a form of mini optimization, but they never again will be able to fully optimize by changing to most optimal covenant/soulbind/conduit combo because of the restrictions.

Really? Cause at the height of it success, you know back in WotLK this is exactly how the game played, PERIOD.

Lmao you just implied something being popular means it is right or good xD

you can get at least 2, which is about how many are influential to your character’s build (at least for arms)

https://shadowlands.wowhead.com/soulbind-calc/venthyr/nadjia-the-mistblade/warrior/AlpaAgUv7A4VHLoOEwUdgA4VLboOJR2KDiEVHJEO

I could do raid pvp and dungeons with that perfectly well

Yeah I did cause WoW became the best MMORPG ever released by being played the way you said an RPG shouldn’t be played.

How many active subs in Wrath? And how many Active subs at BFA launch?

And you’re trying to tell everyone that your opinion on an RPG is the way it’s suppose to be.