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More of a RAM limitation.

Anyone with a threadripper build isnā€™t going to sit there with 16/32gb of ram they are likely running 64/128/256

Yeah, person on my server multiboxxes always scanning the AH with TSM snipes on multiple chars and constantly posting hundreds to thousands of auctions via mousewheel macros and TSM operations/groups so they both donā€™t even have to right click each item to throw it up, but also donā€™t have to set the price manually and click post either. Itā€™s not 1-1, but Blizzard doesnā€™t seem to care about such programs that I would consider at least partial automation.

Anything resembling total cornering of markets really shouldnā€™t be allowed because it completely guts any part of the system that works in favor of the buyer. Competition is a crucial part of a healthy functioning market and shouldnā€™t be side-steppable.

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You donā€™t even need that many CPU cores. The game just chugs if you lock it to 1 thread because it spinlock deadlocks itself due to waiting for progress on another thread. Pin wow to two logical threads on 1 CPU core is pretty much enough to get it going.

My concerns are more towards the ability to run this script across dozens of accounts while afk with no one else able to compete without a depth of coding knowledge. Iā€™m fine with one instance of this running, maybe 2, but to have dozens able to run it at once is as bad as multiboxing.

Pray tell, how do you know about all this? Is this situation a known quantity in the WoW Economy and TSM Discord?

But what if that ā€œadvantageā€ is mitigated by one person retaining exclusive use of that advantage? If a problematic use of the addon and web API never becomes endemic because one persones keeps it under wraps, isnā€™t there less incentive for Blizzard to intervene despite the situation not being any less degenerate?

Then again, thatā€™s what makes it hard for me to fully get onboard with OPā€™s claim: if there was a magic bullet to AH automation, thereā€™d be more than one guy able to code it. In the software world thereā€™s always more than one implementation for anything, and exploits never stay hidden for long, unless the game population is so decimated that no oneā€™s really looking at the APIs for possible addon innovations anymore.

This has nothing to do with Tsm. Iā€™ve been investigating this for over a year now.

If you feel what is going on is actually cheating you would want to carefully write that up, along with the links and names, and email it to hacks@blizzard.com

They donā€™t tend to reply, but if there is actual cheating that is the best place to submit the details. That way you canā€™t get in any forum trouble.

Yeah but the WoW Economy / TSM Discord and Reddit are the whoā€™s who of WoW Goblins. If your claims were a known quantity in the AH community thereā€™d be others to corroborate your investigation.

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Tsm and many others already offer some form of automating scanning. Thatā€™s the part, which I mentioned in my op, that isnā€™t restricted by Blizzard. The problem lies in the discovery of a new way to call the auction house listings. This search algorithm, combined with automation, is what makes this a dangerous tool in the wrong hands.

This isnā€™t and has nothing to do with cheating. Iā€™ve said this at least 3 times now, this person is not cheating but is instead abusing a grey area mechanic used to create an automated search script that they alone have turned into an army of afk accounts.

Well, if you can get your hands on sources for that, a very possible recourse is to publish them (say, on Github or WoWInterface). Once the sources and methods are available to all, 1) That one person loses their advantage and 2) Blizzard has an incentive to nip it lest it becomes endemic.

If you have no sources and no namesā€¦ Beyond clamoring to restrict API calls like you are currently to nip that possible (until proven actual) exploit, thereā€™s not much that can be done.

I have information that Iā€™ll gladly send you in game. Mind logging in?

I guess Iā€™m being moderated since some of my comments have deleted themselves. Nice.

36 instances of wow will need that many cores, you still have to run the OS aswell as background API requests and your 'research videos ā€™ on a second panel while you bring in plenty of Dosh.

A 32 core threadripper with 64gb of ram with a 6900xt will handle this smoothly

Yup! I tested the limits of my machine and found that I can run 24 with 32gb of ram so you could get a lot more than 36 with 64gbs.

Sitting there with 24 clients at the login screen is not the same as being logged in and actively handling data.

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I had control over 6 auction houses in my day. That and the BMAH on those servers too.

Took lots of time and effort and it wasnā€™t against the ToS to do it so why not let people play the game how they want to?

Were you able to scan for new deals while afk and buy those deals as soon as they were posted across all your characters?

Iā€™m seriously sitting here trying to figure out how a single player has the time for all that

Like I can barely manage to get 3 ZM dailies done some days :grimacing:

Justā€¦ how?

I know thereā€™s no proof but if one single player truly has the reach youā€™re suggesting, it would almost require bots would it not?

How could one player manage all of that single handedly?

Seriously mind boggling šŸ˜µā€šŸ’«šŸ˜µā€šŸ’«