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Blizzard aint gonna do :poop:

When have they ever? So they do a ban wave of bots or an AH/carry group yay -_- it’s the equivalent of sweeping dirt under the rug while your front door is broken and open 24/7. They haven’t done anything in 17+ years they’re not about to start now.

And EVEN IF they did and that’s a big IF, do you honestly believe that anyone working there right now is capable or competent enough to handle something as large and delicate as this? Be honest, look at the retail WoW we have now, how they’ve handled bots and farming in the past, and tell me you have faith that they could handle this.

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It will change very slightly eventually if you don’t manually choose to ignore that person’s.

Because even if the price goes up slightly on one auction house, it’s not happening on a majority of them.

Calm down. You’re making a mountain out of a molehill.

If you are concerned with someone’s behavior on the AH, open a GM ticket and put in a report.

I reported someone duping hex weave bags in WoD and while the GM didn’t say what they found in response all the dupers’ posts got taken down.

If they’re committing economic exploitation, report them.

ITT people don’t understand what TSM and macros are.

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there is a problem.

when I wanted to buy the spider that costs 2m, I couldn’t farm 2m without feeling like I was in a job.

people told me to understand AH, but it’s not that simple and I didn’t want to put effort into something I normally do (I’m a programmer in real life), so I thought it was silly to have to learn so many tools, which I could, but it would take too long and in the end, it would take away the purpose of the game to be FUN.

I wasn’t having fun when I tried to farm skins because there were dozens of bots together.
I didn’t have fun trying to farm herbs for the same reason, there were always 10 druids flying together in front of me.
I didn’t have fun mining
for the same reason


And when I stopped and took a look at what was happening, I found myself thinking about ways to farm skins, herbs or ores, or even how to deal with AH
and not having fun doing it.

Some other people told me that I could farm GOLD by simply being a raid/m+carry.

And I like doing raids/duns (not in this exp), but I just don’t want to make it A JOB!

In the end, I prefer pvp. And they told me to be a pvp carry then
but I’m bad at pvp and I play for fun.

What’s left for me, a casual player?

There’s nothing left.

I still don’t have the 2m spider.
I can’t find ways to farm by myself in a LOW and acceptable time without looking like a job, where I have to repeat the same task every day for months to get 2M.
I can’t see any way to get to 2M, or 5M, or 10M just by doing nice things.

Focusing on AH with various tools for hours, competing with BOTs and doing the same task for months, for hours and hours a day, or having to carry people through dungeons in perfect times or being a PVP nerd, is not for me.

My thoughts on equipment and mounts:

Equipment should all be crafted, at a low ilvl, to provide a fair way to get the XMOG.
Mounts should be dropable, even with a low chance, so people could try to take it by their own efforts, without having to compete with other players unfairly.
Example > it took me years to get the invincible - but i got it.
> I still haven’t managed to gather 5M (due to the reasons mentioned before) to catch the long neck dinosaur and I don’t think I can do that anymore.

The appearance of pvp ELITE gear is obtainable in 1800 ratting. I think it’s unfair for old gear to be locked, as older raids are accessible in mythic mode.

Finally, Mythic Mode raid gear is accessible in the next expansion, giving a player the opportunity to simply wait to go after something they found cool or beautiful, without unfair competition.

So, apart from this pvp problem, which I would solve with a token, like pvp mounts, or with some kind of quest, all raid xmogs can be obtained even after the expansion ends.

What many players today do in wow? go to old raids, old dungeons, old quests, to get some armor or weapon appearance.

So, for me : XMOG > gold.

Remove gold from the equation, put mounts to drop even with some difficulty, put all xmogs in the game to be collected via profession with a fair number of materials that don’t take the person’s personal life - or to be dropped from raids / dungeons / quests / tokens (like pvp mount)
solve the problem.

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lmao good joke!

They don’t care.

Footage and reports for dozens upon dozens of headless automated bots have been sent into that email and the vast majority (> 99%) are still up and never actioned a year later.

They make an example out of one of thousands and then tout it for PR to shut people up for another half decade, while their anti-cheat continues to let cookie clicker low brow automation pass by.

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What a weird thing to say lol

And you think GD post will accomplish your goal? Lol

you can’t see how much gold a person has on the main either - so very much a worthless complaint

I figured maybe you had some economic system where you are from that you don’t like free market.

no proof of that - how would OP even know?

If you want a set price then there would be no need to have an auction house - the crafter could vendor an item for that price and the buyer would buy an item for that price from a vendor- blizzard isn’t going to do this.

The auction house is a mini game some people very much enjoy.

If you have any evidence of this being as close to a bot as you make it out to be, send said evidence to hacks@blizzard.com. They can’t/won’t do anything without evidence.

I agree with Capslock; if you have reasonable evidence that someone (or more than one person) is doing something you believe to be against the terms of the game in any way, collect that evidence and send it to the hacks email. Beyond that, there really isnt much you can do. While there is no way to know if anyone from Blizz reads GD, I suspect that some of their employees do from time to time so who knows, someone there may take note and act. Only time will tell.

how can they act - when there are no specifics?

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I think I said somewhere in my comment “reasonable evidence”. And besides, Blizzard is perfectly capable of checking their own data. They do it all the time.

what would they check?

and you mentioned evidence in the email hack route.

You also mentioned maybe blizzard would read the forum take note and act and that is a long shot considering they don’t really know what they are looking for and on what servers.

Or instead of inconveniencing everyone who has long used the auction house API responsibly with addons how about just banning this one person and all their accounts? Eh?

Blizzard could fingerprint their computer and ban any new accounts by them and then sue them if they continue.

It’s a shame, considering that long ago, blizzard used to take action against bots, cheaters, and hackers. They were very strict on breaking the ToS. I don’t know what even happened to that company anymore.

Might want to take a gander at this: https://www.ftc.gov/advice-guidance/competition-guidance/guide-antitrust-laws/antitrust-laws

Do you have issues with comprehension? I said evidence, so presumably the person would send along what they knew including servers and the activities they noted. They would not obviously just send an email saying X is doing bad things, please fix it!

Blizzard’s teams know how to check for bots, for use of banned software and exploits, etc. There is also this Warden software which is installed with the game on every computer of anyone who plays the game and it can look for whatever Blizzard tells it to look for.

Let just assume they can find inappropriate activity if they wish to look.

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Well, then I’m certain botting hasn’t been an issue in the game for a very long time now and there’s no way that multi-botters have hyperspawn farms set up right now.

That’s the problem, most of the time they don’t wish to look.

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you gave two routes

you can assume that - I don’t see any indication they are breaking any rules. OP is just asking is it fair. They just made an addon for themself - nothing indicating that addon is illegal. I have known mythic raiders who make addons for themselves - even rotation addons.

Why are so many people in the comments OK with market manipulation?

No economy in the world would let half the crap that goes on in the WoW economy, continue. Theres a reason governments fight against anti-competitive and monopolistic behavior.

You all sound like “temporarily embarrassed millionaires” fighting against tax increases that will never effect them.

What you want to bet the defenders are actually the market manipulators?

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