TBC will suck because of flying

This is one of my favorite idiotic memes I hear from anti-flyers, that somehow flying ruined exploration.

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About half the reason I’m here in classic is the promise of flight.

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Dailies was a horrible design chore.
Pvp and pve year split was bad with resilience.

Good things are: new skills, pvp system is better with honor 2.0.

Oh my…that would be extremely weird.

I always preferred a netherwing dragon myself; not going to judge though.

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This is a fantastic idea. Imagine if every druid did this while picking a flower. Would definitely improve the experience.

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You have the option to NOT play TBC. Flying is fine. Now back to your hole troll.

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Just come clean dude. You can’t gank as easily with flying. You have tunnel vision because of PVP.

How about no flying on PVP servers. That should be enough to make you happy.

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You need to calm down. For someone with zero evidence, your attacks on “butthurt forum posters” is pretty ironic given you might just be describing yourself.

I said: Me, and many others, hold an opinion that flying is bad. I didn’t say 80% of WoW players or anything like that. I used an ambiguous, pretty moderate, blanket term to describe an opinion. Not sure how that’s vastly overestimating.

I’d agree that flying didn’t really kill WPvP, as we all just witnessed it was BGs that eliminated those big lagfest battles that happen around the world. However, it certainly did play a part in making the world feel empty, which is my major issue with flying.

You can fly up high, point your mount in the right direction, put on auto move, and just get from point A to B more quickly than a flight master and running can.

I certainly wouldn’t say WPvP populates the world, because it doesn’t, but I still organically run into plenty of people farming mats, running around Felwood and Blasted Lands for buffs, leveling (this isn’t an issue in BC because you need to be 70 to fly, but WotLK and later expansions lowered the requirement so levelers could fly), or the occasional gank squads.

People still do those things on flying mounts, but they don’t populate the world as much because they’re 150 yards up in the air.

sets mount to desired elevation

pushes autorun button

reads this whole topic while flying across hellfire to the little ? marker

Woooooo gameplay!

Another good reason. At least with ground mounts, you have to be somewhat aware if you autorun and tab out. I bet we’ve all autoran while tabbed out into a pack of mobs or an opposite faction town and gotten ourselves killed. At least it’s a little more engaging than 500ft in the air autoflying.

(Day 1 classic world of warcraft)
Click NPC.
Click map.
AFK for 5m.

Fixed that one for you.

Cry harder flying was one my favorite additions in tbc

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Have you never used a flight path before? They don’t have any of the problems you stupidly added to the quote unless an enemy player kills you after you land. You FLY to the destination, totally risk free, until you land at the other side.

Flight points are set locations, my friend. Even after landing at them you often need to do some footwork (AKA gameplay) to reach your desired destination! You also have to get to them in the first place, sometimes at inappropriate levels because unlocking that shortcut across the zone is a big time saver! That is also gameplay. Flying mounts take you right from A to B. It changes the entire gameplay pattern, you see. Fly, stop, kill thing. Fly, stop, pick up thing. Fly, stop, talk to dude. How much of your gameplay is really spent PLAYING as opposed to travel/flying?

Another concept! Being Horde, I’m sure you know how much running people do in The Barrens. Barrens chat was born because you could not just autorun across The Barrens as there were many aggro mobs on the way to your quest/killing destinations. They had to pay attention to the game, but it WAS boring so they also socialized. This is how the legendary Barrens chat was born, because players could not watch TV and browse memes while alt-tabbed for 5 minutes while in flight.

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What is the point of this post? Seriously? TBC will be released in a similar(but hopefully better and more organized) manner as Classic. There will be NO attempts to modify it into something else.

If you don’t like flying then don’t play TBC. Flying was not a terrible thing in TBC. It was actually one of the things that made TBC as successful as it was. I’m not gong to debate folks over whether flying overall is a good thing. I won’t waste my time with that can of worms. But, during the time TBC was released I did NOT hear the massive hate of flying and how it will destroy the game and I was an avid forums reader. This new meta of flying hate came later.

Is it good overall or is it bad? I won’t answer or debate that. I just know that flying in TBC helped to make TBC very successful when it was initially released and trying to take flying out of TBC now is an utterly meaningless endeavor.

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Good news! There are two solutions for you. Either don’t play TBC or don’t fly. There you go.

You can tell who hasnt played TBC before, because they are the same people who dont like flying.

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Definitely No.

But instead of analyzing what an expansion did correctly and where it went wrong, people are of the mindset that it is an all or nothing approach.

Why can’t we take the better pieces of TBC and leave out the bad? Is Blizzard a small indie company struggling for resources?