TBC Unpopular Take

I think your mistake is assuming the Classic team is the same size as retail and would double the size if they merged. I would venture to guess it’s not even close to the size.

Cancel Classic, merge the 2 teams, and I’d be really surprised if any noticeable changes came to retail.

There are no effects though. Correlation doesn’t mean it’s a cause behind it.

Classic was developed and came out through 2018-2019. Right in the middle of BfA. And remaking vanilla was a significantly larger project than BC ever was. But BfA’s schedule was completely normal. There was no lack of content and the only patch that got delayed was 8.3 just to avoid the holiday season.

Retail and Classic did absolutely nothing to each other. :slight_smile:

Well I wasn’t being literal. The changes we want to see to retail may be completely unrelated to classic. Maybe, maybe not. The effect on the player base is real enough though.

You just kicked down the door for a “No true Scotsman” argument.

Spot on comment.

/polite golf clap

Well yeah it would work if the resources they are using werent poorly used on awful systems that are only based on metrics and not on past good systems… and no legion artifacts system doesnt count here they already did that on BFA and now conduits… both bad takes on a system that was good had it flaws but it could recover.

I think you’re also forgetting about the fact that Blizzard has the resources to increase their WoW team, but they simply don’t. They make plenty of $$ to hire more and more people, but they don’t (even before Classic existed). Classic probably requires a very tiny team, but it probably brought in a ton of revenue that they didn’t have before. I think the better question is why aren’t the resources being brought in BY classic being pumped into retail?

Even if the Classic team didn’t exist, the retail team would probably still receive the same amount of resources that it does now. In theory, you’d think Classic would OPEN a lot more resources for Blizzard to plug into Retail, but… they don’t do it.

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That’s just one half of it though. Lets say there is a finite amount of players out there that would ever be interested enough in playing an MMO like WoW. Say 12 million players. Re-releasing an old expansion will cut the player base of the current game by a significant amount.

People like OP need to stop assuming like it’s ‘hurting’ the current game. Blizz has separate teams… don’t need lots put into classic as that game is done, they just needed to port it.

People like it for what it is, kinda like how some avoid D3, and stick with D2.

It’s just subjective opinions/tastes. Don’t need to get it.

And no I don’t feel what you feel… I know the classic iterations aren’t hindering retail and I know why people like what they like.

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There’s never going to be 12 million players again. It doesn’t matter what they do. Retail and classic are 2 different markets. You can’t get classic players to play retail.

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Just shooting straight with you, most people on the forums have a “Retail Vs. Classic” attitude they’re always thinking about. You can’t like one without hating the other basically… And I just don’t vibe with it, personally.

Truth be told, I don’t think Classic did anything but benefit WoW as a whole. I don’t think very many retail players jumped ship to go play Classic. I do think a lot of “old” WoW players who played during Vanilla/TBC or people who have been playing on Private Servers this entire time are what makes up the majority of the dedicated Classic player base. A lot of people forget that private servers had a decently large following until Blizz cancelled them by releasing their own Classic servers.

Sure, a chunk of retail players may be checking out classic due to the content drought… but they won’t stay for very long. You’re arguing that Classic WoW has taken resources away from retail. I believe it’s the opposite. Classic WoW has done nothing but bring MORE resources to WoW as a whole. But WoW (Blizz) is CHOOSING not to invest them into their main game, retail WoW. Which is more what I believe you should be questioning.

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What if they took the Diablo, Hearthstone, and Overwatch team and had them work on WoW instead!

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I honestly don’t understand the draw.

I played burning crusade while it was live I don’t want to go back and redo the same stuff I’ve already done.

Blizzard has a long track record of incredibly slow releases all on their own.

Both in WoW patches/expansions and other titles.

No need to make excuses for them.

That’s essentially all that wow is. After like week one of 9.1, it’ll be doing all the same stuff for another 6 months.

true but I’m not going to go back in time and do those 6 months over again.

Again missing the point completely thanks for coming out.

Right, that’s why it’s been getting significant updates almost every week.

I just simply don’t agree with your opinion. I think it is the complete opposite. If we dont have TBC or even classic, we have more players in Retail, more voices asking for new content. More friends to play with. New exciting content to participate in. Let the private server play on their little private servers recycling the same thing over and over for years. If there’s a new raid every 6 months, you know some of those players are going to be curious enough to check it out.

Im kind of doubting there was some large team to work on something that already existed.