TBC Dual talent specs

90% of people want dual talent specs, even if it were to cost more than the 1k gold it did back in the day. Another option that would greatly benefit the issue of not having dual talent specs is the idea of having PvP talents; a talent spec that activates as soon as you enter an arena or battleground. Either of these options would greatly benefit the community in terms of being able to actually play the game to its fullest. TBC is #somechanges! The masses WANT THIS.

Edit: I would personally prefer having “PvP talents” in arena/battlegrounds. So please, do not use the argument of raids forcing 2 PvE specs.

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i would really like to see the research and data pointing to 90% of the population asking for this. thats incredible

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No, That’s all the more reason not to give it to them. The masses wanted flying mounts + LFG and they had a terrible effect on the game. Making these sorts of QoL changes just puts us right back on the road to retail. Which we want to avoid with TBC in the first place.

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I like this idea PLEASE Blizzard put this in the game!
I like this idea PLEASE Blizzard put this in the game!
I like this idea PLEASE Blizzard put this in the game!
I like this idea PLEASE Blizzard put this in the game!

Step 1: log in to classic. Step 2: ask in chat. Step 3: Profit.

How do you figure?

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I am part of the 10% that does not want it at all. I think it is a detriment to the game. leading to people having 2 PVE specs and having people swap from boss to boss for a more optimal raid set up. Dual spec was a bad game choice. The game was far better without it. It becomes a raid requirement so that guilds can progress and clear faster.

No thanks, I prefer the choices guilds have to make on raid comp, if they send someone back to town to respec, come to raid as a sub-optimal spec, or work around having an inferior spec for that specific encounter.
If they do send them back to town to respec, do they have them go back once the encounter is done, to respec back to their normal spec.

These are all good choices guilds have to make. Dual spec would eliminate every one of them.
I get you want to PVP.
I get you want to farm a bit easier.
I would rather have to deal with respecing to do a dedicated farming session or to PVP, than take that game design and meaningful choice guilds have to make, away.

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but you dont have any verifiable proof or anything? just log on and ask trade chat? sounds legit

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No, no, no. Dual specs aren’t something that should go into TBC. The raids weren’t designed for it, and it wouldn’t even have the effect you are looking for anyways. What you think would happen is that you get a pve and a pvp spec. What would actually happen is you have 2 pve specs, and you are expected to change them on the fly as needed.

This also strips away your class identity. Especially for hybrids, that have gotten the bottom end of of the stick for all of classic. You are no longer a feral druid, you are a feral and resto druid.

Then you have the eventual WOTLK expansion that everyone knows is coming. You are stripping away an iconic feature from this expansion, and just shoving it into tbc. Which in turn makes wotlk all that more hollow.

Idk about you, but I am sick of faceroll raids, and more powercreep is not the answer. If you really want a viable solution to wanting to respec for pvp, then just reduce the cost.

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100% this.

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I legit posted a 2nd idea that combats everything you just said. Next argument?

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I am completely on-board with this mentality. The thing I worry is that as time goes on we will eventually get Wrath and maybe even Cata. At some point we as a playerbase need to ask FOR changes…to not include these features that were originally part of the expansion.

Starting with Wrath:
Remove Heirlooms
Remove Dungeon Finder
Remove Dual-Spec (I don’t even want it there)
Keep raid and dungeon marks the same from start
(I don’t want to be able to get Triumph marks from dungeons so I can get Trial of the Crusader level gear without ever stepping foot in Naxx, Ulduar, or ToC and going straight to ICC)

Dungeons: Heroism
Naxx 25: Valor
Ulduar: Conquest
Trial of the Crusader: Triumph
ICC: Frost

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Reducing the respec cost is actually a viable answer, but they would have to make it actually reasonable to do. 50g each time is not reasonable.

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Let’s do it! I’m down with it being a tank in TBC I would love to have some ease of access to change specs :stuck_out_tongue:

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No.

No dual spec.

If you want to change specs, you’ve got to pay. It’s a gold sink and it needs to stay 100%.

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Saying respecing is a gold sink is the dumbest argument anyone could offer. The vast majority of people will simply not participate in one aspect of the game (look at current classic WoW), VERY little gold will actually be removed from the economy, especially compared to the amount that people would be willing to spend on dual talent specs.

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Respecing and repairs are the largest gold sink in the game, by far.

You actually believe most people have spent over 1000g on respecing? :rofl:

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Yes.

Why do you want dual spec if you’re not going to respec? Have you not spent at least 1000 gold? That’s like 2 respec per month so far in classic.

Correct, I do not buy gold, therefor I avoid respecing and avoid pvping. This it the entire reason for wanting dual talent specs or pvp talents. After getting a good laugh at your logs, I see why you dont care about having optimal talents for the content.

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