QUESTION IS why bother ! its OLD content ! lol
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Exactly this, They are thinking it’s ok and it will just go away, or “we will just deal with it” well, honestly I won’t. After doing more grinding than your average player, I am more than pi$$ed, we have been practically robbed and on Blizzard’s part it’s ok, because the Dev’s have decided that x5 drop rates going forward will fix the issues, when essentially some people won the lottery starting with 30k.
This is like getting a happy meal without the toy. Why rob us of our ability to earn echoes just because we put in the hardwork to max our essences? Why cap earning them at all? Major design oversight is the obvious answer. And because they have no logs going back to check who had what and to compensate only those with zero going forward would be unfair to those who had some from acquiring a rank 1 essence right before this system. Well the answer, was simple Blizzard, you just implement a NEW damned currency. Was it really that hard??
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They definitely should at least state why they won’t let people apply corruption to conquest cap rewards. But so far, they have said nothing about it. (lack of communication is not something new I guess)
They let crafted items to be corruptible, so it doesn’t make sense.
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I have done 3 five chest runs and gotten no corrupted gear, only shoulders. Did they make it so you have to buy the corrupted item now?
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This seems to be bugged on one of my characters. Massively bugged. I’d hoped to be able to do a quick catch up, but it seems that is not the case. It’s still the same as it was before.
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I understand your point. I still think it’s backwards. To rank from 9-11 you need 3 full clears to accomplish it in one run. It’s a major feat, i did it with help and we weren’t able to kill Thrall. Then 13-15 only requires 2 pages. one from each of the lost zones. It would make more sense to full clear at the later level. Once you get Elite Extermination it changes things. It still seems bass ackwards though, imo.
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Since this was the goal I just wanted to post some additional suggestions that might help achieve those goals:
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Reduce the conquest requirement for the 445 pieces and/or
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Change the random BG conquest rewards so that you get the first win of the day amount on any BG win up to either a weekly bonus conquest cap, or until you’re caught up. This will let people get conq catch up gear doing the content they prefer at a more reasonable rate. Not everyone does rated or wants to spam PvP islands.
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Reduce the page requirement for cloak upgrades 9 and 10 from 4 pages to 2 pages as most players will not be able to solo a full run on cloak rank 9 and 10 (depends on gear, I just barely could do a full run when I was rank 10 and working on 11 on a 450 priest WITH elite research and the on death research). This goes along with your other change which seemed to intend not requiring more than one run for an upgrade. Note this is probably particularly true for people who weren’t getting extra mementos from the raid every week to push research further.
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To go along with 3 or alternatively, maybe reduce the corrupted memento cost of research?
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Either change it so we can buy rank 3 essences with echoes without having had them already (now that we want corruptions from echoes the opportunity cost of getting an essence with echoes is already much higher), or further reduce the requirements of obtaining things like Conflict and Strife/Vitality Conduit. IE: you could reduce the Aqueous Reliquary number required for things like Vitality Conduit, or significantly increase the drop amounts so you could get say a rank a week in LFR/normal and get to rank 3 in a single week doing heroic or mythic
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Make conquest gear corruptible with the new corruption vendor items if that’s not already something you’re planning to get around to doing
edit: I’ll throw in
- Change the upgrade requirements past 15 so you can get both cores from visions. The resistance is important in all types of content including PvP and M+ and not everyone raids.
If you’re naturally progressing through the visions, and pushing yourself to complete more than the bare minimum, you should have EE by rank 9 already. You don’t need 80% reduction in sanity loss or Gift of the Titans for a full clear. EE is the gateway to full clears. At that point, it becomes a matter of efficiency:
- what potions to use
- how to pull mobs, when to kill elites
- what trash to skip and what is absolutely necessary to kill
they removed the much needed rep buff and replaced it with trash NOONE needs!
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I honestly don’t see why you wouldn’t. My rogue and prot pally both cleared 4 areas with a rank 8 cloak. I could see it being difficult if you didn’t have certain MOTHER upgrades (specifically the one that refunds 200 sanity when you kill a boss), but other than that it’s pretty easy.
Oh, I honestly thought that it was n’zoth on any difficulty. I never realized it was limited to heroic.
That does seem like something they could improve.
It’s normal or higher difficulty, not just heroic. You can’t get them from LFR, but every other difficulty they drop from N’zoth.
Well, you don’t actually have to use the currency. You can just do it the “old fashioned” way if you like. No one is forcing you to buy this stuff, just keep doing what you’re doing and… VOILA! Problem solved.
From what people are saying it seems you can neither corrupt or socket conquest gear. The 460 conquest gear, which is very slow to even get to, is likely the highest ilvl gear a lot of people are going to get and was likely their intention of eventually being their “end-game” gear. That is the gear they’d both want to socket and corrupt.
Do you intend to change it so we can socket and corrupt that gear?
I understand your point. I still contend that it seemed backwards to require a full clear at the mid levels and not at the upper levels. Just seemed backwards.
I’m actually more angry that my alts, who were getting Echoes no issue before, now HAVE to go through that questline if they want any more. The travel is tedious as all sin, no FP at the Heart Chamber is a huge one (“Ok meet me at Halls in Uldum! Ok now let’s go back to the Heart Chamber! Oh but hey yeah good luck I’m outta here, you’re on your own…”). Not all scenarios are skippable (I’M SICK OF HELPING WRATHION HE SHOULDN’T EVEN NEED HELP FOR THIS).
Surprised this wasn’t causing more rage but I’m likely in the minority with how many 120s I have.
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I’ve got six, working on several more. This and one other were able to buy an essence the night before the price went up. only one character has a cloak. I haven’t found a spot that can be skipped yet…
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- Magni lets you skip one, but you have to talk to him outside Halls of Orig.
- Raden lets you skip Engine of Nalaksha step, talk to him at his throne.
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…and that really, really is the problem. It’s supposed to be a catch-up mechanic, so, let the guildless catch up. People in a raiding guild are probably up to date already.
What does being guildless have to do with anything? Group finder is available for everyone.