It would, I almost went Ret instead of Prot just because I find it fun. I’d love dual spec.
Like sure tanking is good in dungeons and aoe stuff, but when you’re killing stuff ST… it sucks.
There is a tank shortage because people don’t want to tank simple as that.
Adding dual spec doesn’t suddenly make me want to tank.
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But when you say “ add dual spec to tbc to solve tank shortage” that’s an absolute is it not?
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you went prot bc you want to tank. Dual spec would not change that or you would have went ret until you hit 70, agreed?
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I went prot because I like tanking dungeons, if my raid group has tanks already I’d much prefer being ret, hence the dual spec, can tank dungeons and dps raids. Otherwise I either have to go ret for all, or find another guild.
Some people really go 2Head with #nochanges. Some QoL makes gameplay more fun.
That vary much is a clear example of exactly what I said so not seeing at ALL how that is “dose not”.
To be able to respec to tank requires that person to have tank gear and the abilty to tank. As well as have the gold to respec back and forth that is another “consumable” to farm.
So thank you for aiding my point of exactly that going from 1 tank to 5 is a large part of tbc raiding that requires a roster to match. Good luck getting your roster of 20 hunters to respec to tank if you don’t maintain a roster able to respec to tank if your picking to go the respec way furthermore while maintaining the buffs you want if having issues with said fight as the classes that can respec are not ones you want to stack but want for buffs so having extra people to swap in and out is in fact the faster and more effective way.
As I note I have also done tbc at the time respecting is only one way to meet the roster requirements. Duel specs vary much take away a large element of raids. Esp as people are way more willing to maintain a offspec when they can swap at a push of a button than when they need to use 100g to swap back and forth if doing a lot like your example.
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People will hearth/summon if the comp needs to change that drastically. Dual spec might as well be added at this point so people don’t have to sit around between bosses waiting for respecs.
You just need some tanky gear and you can tank just fine.
I’m prot spec, and have holy gear. I do both with no issues at all. BUT - I’m also willing to be a team player.
I just don’t see the need for it is all. I’m not #nochanges In my opinion it’s just not needed , if you need dual spec to have fun then idk I guess I just don’t see it
I enjoy tanking. Started in vanilla and went through WotLK. I came back for TBC. I rarely join pug groups because I just do not want to deal it the aggravation.
It wasn’t a problem balancing it, people whined that feral could dps and tank with one spec.
I’ve never said that. You can’t just add quotation marks to any BS lie you want just because you want to win an argument. I care about intellectual honesty, clarity and discussion and I’ve been very careful in this thread to not say dual spec would solve the tank shortage problem only mitigate it. There’s a quotation function on this forum that you can use if you wanted honest debate. But clearly you don’t have the intellectual capacity for that.
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dual spec! the change we need…
Burkkins didn’t say he needed dual spec to have fun. He said it makes gameplay more fun. You really like your strawman arguments. You should try addressing what people actually post. Or is it a reading comprehension problem?
I agree with this view. I like to heal dungeons but I also like and have to quest. It makes questing painful if I have a healing spec for dungeons. Since there is no dual spec I likely won’t heal on my druid. I’ll just dps and do much fewer dungeons because of it. The game will still be fun enough for me to continue playing but it will be less fun for me and for other dps players as they have increased difficulty finding healers for their groups
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Even with unlimited, free, no restrictions on talent changes… there would still be a tank shortage.
People just don’t want to do it.
They think it’s too hard, or too boring, or too much pressure.
It’s not.
Not waiting around for respecs is not a reason to add it. It taking time to do things vary much is part of classic if you want instant gratification go back to retail. Esp as the time to go and respec was hardly even a factor to anything I said. It is VASTLY different to have a roster of people that are able to respec for free at will with no loss and asking people to maintain two specs knowing if they do they will have to pay 100g (50g per respec if doing often x2 to go back) every single time the raid asks them to swap. It is vary much part of TBC to have to make roster calls and this includes how many tanks or healers you are going to bring and if its worth paying for the respecs or worth swaping.
Asking people to play a spec they don’t want to play already can be a streach asking them to pay 100g to play a spec they don’t want to play is much harder. While further needing them to maintain a set for both specs with enchants at a greater cost. Making it easier to swap changes the roster game that is a large element of tbc raiding (to the point of often being the hardest element of many bosses) is not a good thing if you are wanting to experience TBC. The entire post of playing tbc is to experience tbc and large changes such as adding duel specs that RUIN core elements of tbc should NOT happen.
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There is no solution. People don’t want to tank because they don’t want to tank, no amount of “making it an option” or “giving additional rewards” will help that to any significant degree
The only way people will get over their fear of tanking is to somehow convince them that it’s honestly the easiest role to perform decently - and to stop putting so much responsibility on the tank to lead the group. you don’t have to be the one in front to be the one that pulls
Exactly, in fact in tbc many pulls are better to have a hunter do it and honestly when chain pulling esp having a dps pulling the next back to keep the flow going often is the best way.
To the point when teaching a new tank having a good hunter with them to guild by the pulls doing it for them is one of if not the most effective ways.
The groups tanks have issues with are not groups that can handle pulling on their own. Sorry but a hunter who doesn’t understand something as simple as skull first and don’t multi shot until the tank has hit everything at least once is not going to be able to pull.
I’m…not sure what this has to do with what I said, but okay