The problem is that, for ethical pvpers, pvp is kinda spoiled when one side is significantly stronger than the other. The stronger side can just parade around doing w/e without facing any coherent opposition. The ordinary pressure to use your positioning and cooldowns wisely is completely missing from this kind of pvp, for both sides. It does not matter whether or not it is technically cheating imo. Queue-syncing randomly into epic bgs is the proximate cause of many many one-sided matches.
There are changes blizz could make both to the bgs and game rules that could reduce the potenential for disparity in premade vs pug matches, if we even want to keep these two groups mixed together, but the devs are not paying any attention to epic bgs. Without any changes, there simply is not a queue currently available for very large epic bg groups to join and reliably get competitive matches.
Regardless of how they’re doing it, they’re still circumventing the system that was put in place to prevent more than 5 players queuing together for an epic BG.
Quit trying to defend the indefensible, take the L, and accept the fact syncers are legitimate cheaters.
There’s not more than 5 players queueing together for an epic bg. There’s multiple 5 man parties that might get into the same BG or more likely will get split pops and sent to separate ones. Not cheating.
Blizzard has literally told them premade raids drive players away from PvP. Premade raids can see all the pugs, replacement pugs, and replacement replacement pugs leaving their games. Pugs don’t enjoy playing in rigged matches. They’d rather take the deserter debuff.
PvP is supposed to be a fun competition and premade raids are ruining it for everyone.
4th one up is a classic example of going into a bg, scanning the opponent to see who is there. If that one doesn’t like it, they leave the bg and thus their fellow hordies who are not part of their community are left. Plenty of us horde have seen and experienced you doing this. Stop it! Don’t leave your fellow horde who are not in your community to survive this. Please!
whats interesting is that ones own proclivity to follow the rules falls on a spectrum, at one end you have people who ignore them entirely, and on the other, you have people who follow them to the letter, both ends are evil with the moral choice being somewhere in the middle: only follow rules worth following.