I promise on my whole wow account I would never join a premade exploit group.
Sure, but
and
For now, I rest my case.
For the record I still support this. I do not support banning people for 123queueing.
That’s fine with me, I just think people need to be punished for abusing it for so long.
WoW has always been “exploit early, exploit often”.
Since there are pretty much no long-term gains for this one exploit, I don’t think they should punish people for this at all.
It’s not about what they have gained it’s about how they have been ruining the game for other players for so long.
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Their “fun” will be ruined though, so there’s that at least.
What else can be done? Zero out honor gains?
You can cap honor in a single day.
Ban them from PvP for X days? Then they either quit or do something else while waiting.
Ban the accounts from WoW? Lost Blizzard income for minimal in-game impact, considering the exploit is fixed.
I mean, I get where you’re coming from, but I can’t see a way for it to matter.
Their greatest punishment will be fighting on even grounds.
Definitely seeing a pattern with this one.
I mean the OP at least is trying to improve the abysmal state of PvP.
Everyone else just accepts it as the premade nightmare that it is.
Good PvP games shouldn’t include rolf stomps around the clock, even games like CoD have a hidden Skill Based Matchmaking system.
WoW needs to get caught up with the times or sink.
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The blue post says otherwise, your “interpretation” of the ToU is irrelevant compared what Blizzard said it is. Queue syncing is not an exploit or cheating, That is from Blizzard’s mouth. What you think it is, again, is irrelevant.
Until they come out and say otherwise posters will still bring it up as a clear issue.
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That’s the sticking point here. Players don’t seem to understand this.
It’s blizzard’s house. What they say goes. We are just guests here.
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They need to make separate brackets:
A pug only BG one: no joining with friends/parties, can only queue solo and the selection should be staggered to avoid syncing.
A partial one: can queue solo or with a group.
Full group one: only matches full groups with other full groups. unrated RBG basically
Other things that’d help drive engagement and fun in BGs and arenas is fixing the voice chat to work better and rewarding players that actually use a mic. More conquest maybe?
I think the game as a whole would be better with proximity voice chat standard.
Limit to like 5-10 meters of ungrouped players in cities and like 20-25 meters for open world spaces.
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Since I get some AV vibes here…being there is punishment enough.
I’ve only liked it in it its 15th KAV format. that be from both wow series.
It was the old format. Bring a snickers…it was gonna be a while. IN time most even learned to just go kill Korrack out of the AV in wrath world pve arena. then it got even better.
- This is a settled topic. You have the answer to it, whether you accept it or not is entirely on your head.
- This is literally just spam at this point.
It is not an exploit, no matter however much you all pretend it is one.
https://www.bluetracker.gg/wow/topic/us-en/3686814071-av-premades-an-exploit/
You can dislike it all you want, but you disliking it doesn’t magically change it into an exploit or anything else. If someone is automating it then it is against ToS and by all means, report them for that. But that doesn’t change anything else about any of this.
This has been a settled thing since 2007, and reaffirmed two times. Potentially more but I’m only aware of these other two affirmations (regardless of however upset Daxxarri was or wasn’t to do so).
And this is also what Blizz has had to say about it:
Hey, look at that. It’s almost as if people are still taking vraks quote out of context to twist to suit to their narrative. Huh. Fancy that. 
I wonder if blizz is finally starting to wake up to the issue of leavers (and perhaps eventually queue dodgers) and may just end up rolling out harsher penalties in the future. Perhaps a sign of things to come?
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Given that one ignores that rofl stomping players in any capacity is bad for player growth or retention in the given activity.
They’re not going to stick around to form their own premade to fight other premades, they’ll just go play something else.
“Any addon that enables a full, organized Battleground group to queue against a randomly assembled group is creating a scenario where that coordinated group has a huge advantage.”
What addon is being used in this case? It’s almost like you’re taking that article out of context to suit your narrative?
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Some random blue post from someone that works for blizzard doesn’t change the “interpretation” of the TOS.
Yet you go outside of what blizzard says and claim it’s ok…
It is by the definition of the word… no matter how much you all pretend it’s not.
Ironic… lol
It is not. Blizzard has said it isn’t. You just don’t like the answer.
And before you continue on saying CS Staff are not blizzard, nor speak on behalf of Blizzard, they actually do.
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