account suspended for win trading? I’ve never paid for arena carries or “win traded” how would one even do that? I’ve had these accounts for years and never had an issue. no warning just instant suspension? dose blizz actually do any research into these claims before hand? any useful help is greatly appreciated.
Yes I’m sure they look into it before they apply an account action, although being human I suppose there’s always a chance they hit the wrong button and you got the suspension instead of the all clear.
Put in a support ticket to appeal the account action so someone takes another look at the logs. I would assume they look for a pattern of gameplay behavior in something like win trading, but as with most account actions it probably started when a player reported you to Blizzard.
So whatever you were doing obviously made a player suspicious enough to report you and then blizzard looked at the evidence and said “this looks like win trading”.
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Yes, do appeal.
If it is pvp related, it won’t be a one off flag. It will be from many games across the samples they look at. They won’t go into much detail, but in the past for say afkers it was something like >50% or so. No idea with win trading, but it won’t be just once.
Good luck.
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it was for PVP, and i do multi box as i have 2 accounts but i’ve never “win traded” i would play both my accounts one at a time in the same arena and 1v2 as i like playing arenas but with the research i’ve done and to my knowledge dual boxing isnt against the TOS unless you use some kind of software
Well, that gets more tricky don’t it? Multiboxing, while allowed, is unsupported, meaning use at your own risk. Sounds like there may be a bit more to this.
Do appeal.
If you cannot find out why you got popped, consder playing 1 account at a time, moving forward. No worries, generally, that way.
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How are you playing two characters in a highly fast paced environment at the same time? The only way would be using software to mirror keys.
If you are alt tabbing and manually controlling as you would be to be within the rules, that is highly unfair to your teammates who did not chose to play with someone who is only half effective.
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playing at a high rating or with certain classes i could see how i need software to be effective. but at a low rating playing double rogue or druid where you can be invisible. don’t really need to mirror keys as alt tabbing works for that situation
Okay but one player piloting two characters is always going to be half as effective as two separate players.
While your druid is sitting there in stealth they aren’t doing anything productive.
No idea if this is why you were actioned, but it is definitely a questionable behavior and at the very least a crappy thing to do to your teammates.
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noted 1 guy playing 2 toons is questionable and crappy. but players paying for carries from geared players is okay and acceptable?
I question the relevance of this argument.
Upon further reflection…
Apparently not, as it isn’t fundamentally different from what you are doing.
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If they pay with legitimately earned in game gold, then I believe this falls under “allowed but unsupported.” Several things in that category are activities that other players find questionable. Not sure what this had to do with your case though. ETA: if the carried player is doing nothing, then they could be actioned for non-participation.
What does have to do with your case is, if your stealthed character is regularly completing matches without doing any damage or healing, which it sounds like might possibly be the case, you may be getting actioned for non-participation. They’ve been cracking down on that lately.
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not relevant, just annoyed apologize for getting off track. i did run 2 accounts feral and healer and would alt tab to heal. both charters would have to press ability’s. at no time was i controlling both charters at once nor was one just sitting stealth for the whole game .
Honestly Bullywully, your only option is to appeal, and to keep appealing.
Sadly, we can’t tell what you’ve actually done to get the suspension, and we don’t have access to the logs. And while we all can speculate on the actual action, that isn’t the purpose of these forums. We can give advice on what not to do next time, but without actual information to what the actual action was for, we can only speculate.
If it was for “win trading” as you’re claiming it to be, and you were multiboxing in Arena’s or Battlegrounds, there is a good chance that Blizzard could look at that as win-trading, as it isn’t easy to control multiple characters at once. But we can’t officially say what it is as we don’t have access to the logs to help tell you in what not to do for next time.
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So at no point during the match were both characters actively participating in that match, thus depriving your team of one active teammate.
Edit - Unless you were running 2’s, but then you would have to have reported yourself.
Working with opponents to unjustly receive victories in PvP content, also known as win trading, is considered cheating and is a violation of our terms of service. This type of cheating undermines other players’ experience and severely upsets the balance of the game environment.
I understand some other players may not agree with the dual boxing. all i’m trying to do is get information on why they would suspend my account for it if it didn’t go against the TOS. with the replies i do see how it would look to other players. as i was just doing it for fun and to pass the time thanks for the replies i will await a response from a GM
There are no GMs on the forums nor will they provide the details you’re asking for. That’s not something that they have ever done, basically since launch. They’ve never gone into detail about what their system detected.
At the end of the day, the absolute last thing that Blizzard wants to do is action an account if it’s not necessary.
But there is no route for appeals or details via the forums for this sort of account action.
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it was in 2v2 i’m not sure of the real reasoning behind it i just know that is the only thing i’ve done which is why i brought it up
Multiboxxing itself may not be against the rules (assuming you’re not using ANY automation to do so) however being AFK, not participating, sabotaging your team, and win trading absolutely is against the rules in instanced PvP like arenas and battlegrounds.
I can only make an educated guess here based on your side of the story you have told so far and other posts I have seen here, but it sounds like your teammates reported you for win trading due to your non-participation in arenas which made it look like you were purposefully losing the match to win trade. Especially if you were in solo shuffle with your characters on opposite teams.
So just to be clear, it doesn’t sound like you were suspended for multiboxxing (it would usually be put under a different category), but for win trading. Whether or not you actually were win trading I cannot say, but to those playing in-game and the logs it would certainly look like it. And even if you weren’t win trading, you were AFK/non-participating and sabotaging your team.
TLDR: Don’t multibox when your performance impacts unwilling players.
Again, all educated guesses on my part based on what information you have provided here. The actual reasons are Blizzard’s to know.
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@perl, i do already have a ticket open just waiting to hear back. didn’t come to the forms for a GM response. thought maybe i could get some good information on what not to do again lol
@leynia i only play cata/MOP classic and i only run 2v2 while multi boxing which is why i was confused as the reason for the suspension was for win trading.
Keep in mind that players can report enemy players for AFK/gameplay sabotage as well, in fact many deem it good sportsmanship to do so. I know I do whenever I see it happen regardless of which team they are on.
They don’t have to be a victim of it to report it, though an argument could be made that you still sabotage their games because they are queueing up for a good 2v2 match and instead get back to back 2v1 matches. Not fun.
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