Summoners glitching to get under Naxx

Why do people care? Are you upset that you can’t spam purge and deliberately be a jerk?

Exploiting bugs is considered cheating by the Code of Conduct.

It doesn’t have to.

lol no. They fixed terrain exploits in Booty Bay that people were using to attack other players without reprisal from the guards. They have warned and banned people for rooftop PvP.

How is it not exploiting bugs when you are under the terrain?

The CoC is pretty clear. Exploiting bugs doesn’t have to give you an unfair advantage to be considered cheating. Of course, Blizz is extremely unlikely to do anything about it in this circumstance, but by the letter of their law, it’s against the rules.

Yea precisely they fixed it when people did things to grief players and got mass reported. That logic is like saying your mad someone jaywalked to save their kid from the pedo van guy trying to abduct them. No one cares no ones getting banned and the salty forum troll guy probably doesn’t even really care either hes just bored at work.

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Same with Cenarion Hold, they made the little railing people stood on to freely attack reachable by the guards. Those are places where guards are supposed to be a deterrent for (most) people to not PvP and using those positions to negate the guards is exploiting.

Last I checked there were no city guards outside any Raid portal.

Exploiting terrain isn’t “PvP.” It’s cheating. The CoC says so.

The difference there is really obvious…

You’re missing this part.

They care about these issues; they’re just incapable of dealing with them because they’re incompetent.

That’s literally what exploiting means, as defined by Blizzard.

So getting under the terrain to avoid PvP isn’t exploiting bugs. Mmk.

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He shut you down there, my guy…I must say.

It’s still an unfair advantage even if they aren’t actively attacking. Information is part of pvp and being able to stand there and watch without being attacked to feed your raid information is a pretty sizeable advantage. The counterplay to information gathering and spying is to remove the spy, but glitching through terrain removes the counterplay.

I suspect that the reason Blizzard does not punish this behavior is not because it is legitimate, but rather because people aren’t reporting it enough. Under modern Blizzard, rules are basically decided by squeaky wheel getting the grease. Blizzard doesn’t make their own judgements anywhere near as much as they used to, instead relying on player feedback instead. And even when a punishment is handed out, its usually to a handful of people that managed to piss off enough folks to report them for other reasons while the vast majority keep doing the exact same thing without getting punished. Perfect example is safe spotting. It still constantly happens, even though we’ve seen a few people punished for it.

And you missed the part where Alliance who glitched under SW were also given a three day suspension because they glitched the terrain. Not because, “oooh they avoided their own guards.”

That’s a bit of a stretch, but okay.

How would you describe Far Sight or Eagle Eye, then?

Possibly. I encourage anyone who actually thinks this is a bannable offense to report anyone they see doing it.

Just don’t be surprised when nothing comes of it because it’s really not doing any harm and it isn’t worth Blizzard’s time to address even if they agree it is actionable in the first place.

I think that’s a perfect example of why Blizzard thinks this sort of behavior is acceptable. There are no bans resulting from the summoning above the BWL orb, AQ40 gates, etc. There are bans resulting from safespotting. The difference is that you’re gaining an unfair advantage against other players and bypassing a deliberate part of the area’s design (guards) by standing in areas they can’t reach.

Didn’t miss it; just don’t believe it. There’s video evidence of streamers doing this with hundreds of people following them. No bans resulted.

Blizzard does not care if you are “glitching” under SW. Honestly, I doubt the faction really matters, either, unless you’re attacking people then doing so to avoid guards (which is behavior they’ve explicitly stated as actionable in Classic).

But feel free to report them. They’ll keep summoning under the ground and nothing will happen.

Yes, it is.

But that’s not the right question. The right question is ‘will Blizz ban players for doing it’.

And the answer is no, they won’t. Blizz doesn’t care.

If I were Blizz, the moment Naxx opens I’d have anyone in that spot instantly die and lose all their precious wbuffs.

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Yeah you’re very quick to dismiss things you don’t like.

So am I. Welcome to ignore.

People don’t report things if they don’t care and not enough people care to make this trigger the automated system. So the salty guys will just have to kill the other 5 million running into naxx tonight poor guys.

Nah, just quick to dismiss claims without evidence.

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Can we have a blue post explain why this is allowed?

How is this different from when druids were hiding under the floor in Warsong Gulch Flag rooms? The clear advantage here is that opposing faction can stack people under the floor and kill you but you can’t do anything about it. They can grief you into taking longer to get your raid into Naxx (and also taking out your wbuff)

Because that affects 19 other people and is in a BG.

People being under the floor to enter the raid doesn’t affect you or anyone else at all.

Read please, i explained clearly how it impacts my raid.

If they attack you from under the floor, they can definitely get banned. That’s not what is happening, though. Stop lying.

Where the blue at?