Suggestion: On the topic of the Mighty Caravan Brutosaur

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I think it’s really disappointing that we lost the opportunity to obtain this not only cool-looking, but incredibly beneficial mount. I wasn’t able to play back in BfA because I didn’t have a computer that could run WoW or the ability to obtain one at the time. I was really excited to hear that they added a mount with a mobile Auction House when I returned a couple months ago. 5 million gold is steep, but I was willing to put in the effort (without relying just on tokens) to get it. I leveled my professions and was thrilled once gold started coming in. I decided to look up the mount to gaze upon what I was working towards, and the first topic I came upon was how it was removed with the Shadowlands pre-patch, and instead made a BMAH item.

This, of course, killed me. My excitement quickly dissipated, and I was so upset that I put in a ticket asking for the reasons it was removed. I was eventually told to post a suggestion, so here I am. Anyway, enough back story.

Reasons for why the removal was unfair:
The individuals that have the mount are given a major advantage over anybody that that doesn’t. The ability to access the auction house anywhere, anytime allows for the ability to quickly post and repost auctions in order to undercut, maintaining much more control over their own auctions. It also allows these players to also snag deals much more easily than those that must make a trip, or relog into another character. For 5 million gold, the ability to do these things is fair. Making the mount only accessible for people that happened to be playing and making solid gold in a specific time moment in time, is not.

Making this mount only show up in the BMAH is not a good compromise. For one, only one can be bought each time it (randomly) shows up. Additionally, beginning the auction at 5 million gold is a bit ridiculous. If one is lucky enough to be able to enter into a bidding war, tacking on millions more in gold is likely to be the result, given how people want this mount. Even if I was lucky enough to be able to find the mount on the BMAH, possibly pay gold cap to obtain it, and win, I would still be taking the opportunity away from someone else that wanted it just as badly as I do.

My suggestions:

It could be brought back, at the still ever-steep price of 5 Million gold.

Allow a similar mount to be purchased at relatively the same rate, while allowing the previous mount to be an exclusive color, model, etc.

Make it appear MUCH more often in the BMAH, though preferably at a slightly lower rate.

Bring back the mobile armory phone app, which once allowed us to access the AH and hour auctions through our phones, removing the issue on it affecting competition.

Maybe there are better or more fair suggestions. Would love to hear them, in that case.

I just want to underline that my beef isn’t with exclusive content, it’s with content that gives players such an immense advantage over others being made exclusive.

Thanks for coming to my TED talk.

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Mm well it may benefit the AH moguls, but I think Blizz’s reason for removing it was fair. They did it so in the distant future, as gold naturally inflates, AH mounts would never become as common to see as the mammoths and yaks are now. That’s the problem they’re trying to avoid. It would completely devalue or remove the purpose of having AHs in cities, giving reason for players to go there, and disrupt the flow of the world.

Blizz’s considers it a bad thing and I think they regret doing the AH mount at all. It was a fun cool idea at first, but as BfA went on they saw how it was playing out and realized their mistake.

We’re likely never going to see another one again, not the brutosaur or a new one. I don’t think a whole lot of people really have it so there isn’t much damage. But Blizz can’t just remove it from them either so it has to stay this way.

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I’d suggest a different model at a steeper price that would stay in the game. Players argued that it gave them something to work towards, fine, set the price at 10 or 15 million and let them keep their hopes and dreams alive working towards something. Each expansion add another 10% to 20% markup.

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Yeah, they did not want it to become “common.”

They did so right around the time that I was starting to be able to make the gold that would make it possible. :wink:

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If the issue was inflation, then why remove it when it still takes a lot of dedication to obtain 5 million gold? Why not make the price increase as inflation increases?

The mobile auction app years ago didn’t disrupt the flow of the world, and that was way more accessible. I simply don’t see understand how a continuously difficult to obtain mount would make a city AH obsolete.

And a lot of people do have it. I see them pretty consistently. I’ve asked in dungeon/raid groups to use one, and there is always somebody with one.

To your last point, they could, if it was really that bad of a mistake. Simply refund the 5 million gold.

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The main issue was not inflation, it was -

Which, by proxy, does tie into inflation though.

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I think a markup would be a pretty good idea. 20% would be more than fair.

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While I understand this, Blizz caused this issue in the first place with cities, when they funneled everyone into only Org and Stormwind and deleted the incentives to go to all cities.

I don’t think an auction house should make or break things, if Blizzard went back to putting dailies into cities like we had in Cata. Make them for all levels, make them earn something fun, make them part of professions, as well, bring back Archaeology and make dailies from every city for that, too.

Add transmogrification and void storage and barbershops to every single city, as well as portal rooms to every one of them.

This game got frustrating when they started removing content and mounts that aren’t challenge modes. And it got boring when they started shoving us into an on rails path.

World of Warcraft is no longer about the world and all of its cities and races and cultures to explore. And that makes it less immersive and engaging.

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Right, and it would still be uncommon at the right price.

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The large thread about its removal is still up.

I will always support brining it back. There was zero reason to remove it, or any mount in the game honestly. But, this one is extremely beneficial.

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I’d agree with this statement.

We also have to look at the broader range of people who play games now, the most popular games are those like Fortnite, CoD, and LoL. Many people simply aren’t interested in building relationships, guilds, long-lasting teams and teamwork, nor exploration of the game. Many players aren’t interested in character progression, if it were up to them they’d jump into the content they want to do right away and be able to log out and call it a day.

It’s very obvious that many players would rather just have a lobby game than an rpg here.

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To be fair most players pick up engineering gvine you can access the zone AH’s, so you don’t have to go to cities to use the AH. Blizzard is simply allergic to players being able to access convenient items and methods of getting around. Which I agree and disagree with. On the one hand it keeps players engaged with the game the more out of the way you have to go. Yet in the other it locks mounts and the like behind FOMO walls. Which the majority of the time just aren’t worth it, and lead to more problems than it solves. Similar to the yak and the Mammoth they really didn’t cause many issues. In which it makes sense to make some aspects of the game more on the go or use it when and where you need. As to when get back to ogrrimar means using your hearth, or flight paths and porting around to get to the AH. When the mount makes it a bit easier to get items off the AH, seeing as it’s the main source of raid consumables. Which to me means that you would think it would be worth it to allow the mount to still be up. Over removing it entirely like they did and making it another FOMO item.

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What I mean is over the years people would have more time to work on it so more and more players would gradually be able to get it. Blizz is thinking how it would turn out many years into the future, not right now.

But it’d become an increasingly frequent thing no matter how expensive it is. The price doesn’t matter to those who actually want it. And not everyone has to have it to be able to use it, they can share with others who do. They just don’t want WoW to become that way where every non-city social place has AHs floating in it.

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I always disliked FOMO items. It was one of the main reasons I stopped playing LoL and animal crossing: pocket camp. Especially when such a thing needs you to devote quite a bit of time, which not everyone has the luxury to spend.

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And so dies our genre. :slightly_frowning_face:

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I’d agree with that statement, too.

Do we blame the companies for shifting their games trying to keep more people playing or do we blame the players who swarm in and demand changes?

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I feel it’s a bit of both. And I’ve been saying for a long while now that they’re trying to attract a new generation of players with changing the game. The problem is, new people don’t want to play an almost two decades old “my grandpa’s game.” And they’re alienating all of the older players at the same time.

I don’t have a solution to this, though.

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That’s assuming the player base doesn’t grow, though, doesn’t it? Not everyone can or wants to make the money to buy it. Maybe eventually, but it takes months (if you’re good) to make that money without relying on tokens.

I don’t think it’s feasible to just ask people to use their mount so you can check your auctions. It would take more time than actually getting to the AH, which is already a disadvantage of not having the mount.

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How about we put an auctionhouse into each city and not just for engineers?

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I started recently too and admit that I am envious of people who have it.

While I don’t want it necessarily back, I’d actually like to see it on the Black Market Auction House. I’ve kept an eye on that for ages and haven’t actually seen it come up. One could save up ‘cap’ gold but as it stands I don’t think the mount has been put recently in the cycle (more than happy to stand corrected on this though, if there are any players that also use the BMAH regularly and have seen it).