I would like Blizzard to explain also how the above post violates the forum code of conduct. If it does not, I would hope every person who reported it as “Inappropriate” or “Trolling” or “a Real Life Threat”, gets disciplined for false-flagging the post.
Being upset about something you disagree with, should never be a punishable offense.
When are you going to shut what Tseric called “the mobs of psychology” down Blizzard?
That’s my question.
I’m really surprised you have no problem with them trying to slowly treat WoW as a freemium game.
Over time, charging subs + asking for money for expansions and also putting out premium cosmetics is really bad.
There’s a reason WoW has always been at the top: They strived to put quality content in the game. WoW isn’t most MMOs.
Honestly, we will just have to agree to disagree. Going in circles with one person already is enough.
So it is okay for you to do it to other people, but anyone else who does it is harassing you?
Fair enough. I’m just dumbfounded how people aren’t seeing the obvious problem:
The quality has gone down and they aren’t working towards solving that. Instead they’re just focusing on keeping people feeding money
I’m not oblivious to that fact. I’ve been saying the quality has gone downhill for awhile now. I just don’t think the cash shop is the problem. Going from WoD to Legion is evidence of that, at least to me. They can release quality content when they want to. They just need to want to.
I disagree on this point, the “quality of the gear” you are referring to is completely subjective to the eye of the beholder. I think some of the heritage gear for allied races is on par with the qualify of the Spirit Darter.
I believe that they shouldn’t be spending the slightest bit of resources on the cash shop. The cash shop has never belonged in a pay to play MMO to begin with. A for profit company will always look to make money but it’s also a part the consumer plays which decides how the company will restrain or over time, keep doing something.
I don’t think you understood what I meant by quality.
The overall game quality has deteriorated drastically in the past few years. The last thing they should be doing to save the game is by introducing more cash shop items.
You mean doing what just about every game on the planet is doing? Newsflash have you looked around? All of those other MMO’s from ESO, SWTOR, even the beloved FFXIV has been doing it. Hell some of those games have been doing it for years now. Oh and guess what? It’s not just MMO’s that are doing it! Go look at titles like Destiny 2, Division 2, Fallout 76 even Conan Exiles. Hell word is Cyberpunk 2077 is getting a multiplayer mode that will have microtransactions in it!
Blizzard is a business, they are not your friend or buddy. They are just like Disney, Coke-A-Cola, Valve and others. If they can make money off something? You better believe they are going to do it. And guess what? Hate it all ya want but selling cosmetic stuff makes money.
Really no one is forcing you to buy this goofy looking set. It’s not some pay to win thing. Hell it’s account wide, and a number of other games don’t even do that with stuff from their own shop.
The thing here is WoW isn’t like any other MMOs. Most MMOs would kill and loot to have the nostalgic factor and the mount and transmog hunts which keeps players coming back.
One of the reasons WoW was leaving most MMOs in the dust before is because they designed content which was quality enough that people threw their money in the form of subs.
That has changed. For the worse. When you support this move, eventually it signals to Blizzard that these kind of things are okay in a pay to play game.
They already make us pay for the expansion (which should include the ability to farm these and should be available in game) + subs (access to server).
It is extremely unfair to treat WoW like a Freemium game. I don’t even want to compare a MMORPG like WoW to a MMO as they are different (Destiny, Division 2) because they do not have a sub model.
It has nothing to do with my opinion in the OP as you can not make a connection to them firing employees to adding transmog in the store…maybe you can, but I’m not making that statement, don’t self project your statements onto me.
I mean, I’m sorry I’m not fast enough to respond to everyone individually? It’s easier to respond in one post rather than trying to type out 50 separate posts…I’ll try and speed up though?
Okay so for that first example the person literally said the same exact thing to me first, I literally just said the same exact thing that they did in response to what they said…so you don’t think I should get to defend myself? Got it. I should just be everyone’s punching bag?
Asking for clarification and saying something is basic is rude? Okay…
The next one…let’s see, after someone tried to argue with me about my own opinion for hours I told them “You’re not changing my mind, get over it” how is that rude? It’s blunt, but I had attempted for hours to explain.
All these examples are literally out of context and even without context, half of them aren’t even rude.
Where did I said I’m the whole player base? Do I seriously have to put “In my opinion” after everything I say to not upset people? Like, can we just use some common sense that I’m not speaking for everyone when I say “Grinding gold isn’t fun” ? That’s clearly my opinion…
All your examples are literally just normal forum banter…I’m not going to bother going over them all again…
That’s 100% what I don’t comprehend. Literally the only closest thing is “you can get it free with in-game gold” from players who love to farm gold or “it’s not as bad as other companies” implying that It’s okay for blizzard until they’re as bad or worse than other companies, THEN we can complain.
Saying who cares is an attempt to mock or belittle their stance as many posters did “Who cares, stop crying” so in essence you’re not saying “I love spending more money on a game un-necessarily” you’re attacking someone who’s against that.
Yeah and the whole mass selling of Blizzards stocks, too.
I know, It’s a shame feel the need to attack me and say “Stop crying, this doesn’t matter!” instead of just disagreeing and moving on
I already stated I couldn’t source them and in a response literally said “Take that for how you will” meaning, you don’t have to believe me. The only fact is there was negative reactions to the helmets, they didn’t make another in-game transmog for 7 years.
Right? And the whole “It’s just one” well that’s one that should have been obtainable in the game that we already pay for…
Nailed it! 
According to them it just doesn’t matter, I’m just crying and need to get over it. Yet somehow saying that over and over isn’t harassing me.
So you’re predicting that there will never be cool items on the cash shop so you’re fine with it…? You realize their whole goal is to make them cool so people buy them, right? 
Right? We could have had an amazing questline in darkmoon faire or anything!
Prove to me that It’s not.
And guess who’s paying them? Oh right, us…with sub money…and expansion money…to make stuff for the game and now they’re charging more money for that stuff.
Most players just make up excuses and justify it because Blizzard used to be such a great developer. I know I eventually said “Fine I don’t care about mounts, anymore” same with pets, but every time they add something new, it really does just suck.
I refused to believe that people were the problem or were enabling Blizzard to normalize this as a regular way of life in a pay to play MMO.
Seeing people defend this has baffled me. I was wrong to think people didn’t play a part in this.
bro i got 1 thing to say
owned it anyone defending microtransactions needs to see how they are supporting anti-consumer systems.
I think they aren’t understanding that down the road, this is going to affect the entire playerbase.
It’s literally not the first time, either. It’s already been flagged, looked over, and approved.
It’s how forum trolls silence people who they disagree with. It’s how high elf players pretty much controlled the forums since the new launch of them until they got there way.
He’s actually one of the more logical trollers who’s somewhat tame in comparison to the other people harassing the post…but that’s not saying a lot, unfortunately.
Yup, taking away in-game items and charging us for them when we already pay them.
There’s no other armor in the game currently that has holes in the hood / helmet for ears to come out, everything else just clips through. This is something players have asked for, for years. You may personally think that, but you’re wrong in terms of quality and effort put into the gear.
I am not going to have a conversation with you over this when you cant respond to any prior responses calling you out. Ignoring it doesnt mean it didnt happen.
Blizzard needs to learn how to earn their money the right way - by making a very good and enjoyable game that people want to spend all their time and money on. Not by creating unique transmog sets, mounts and pets to sell on the store.
Thank you.
This is exactly what made Blizzard the BEHEMOTH it is and why every MMO dreams of becoming WoW when it grows up.
People have forgotten why Blizzard’s ONE MMO killed off every damn MMO in existence.
Why do you get to decide which is the “right way”? There are multiple people who support the Cash Shop… as many other MMOs do this… are they doing it the “wrong way” as well?
It’s not me who has decided the right way - the right way was established by the original Blizzard who produced the very first World of Warcraft. I understand people support the shop and that’s cool - you spend your hard earned cash the way you want.