Stop throwing gear around and rewarding mindless play

Sorry ,would have to disagree on that they are two different games ,one chance-luck ,the other interactive.

Actually Classic is MORE like what I want. When you can take 25 skilled players and carry 15 because they have a key is the EXACT OPPOSITE of what you are saying.

Besides, most people who played Vanilla, played it for the actual game - leveling.

Its only the new players who think Vanilla was all about raiding. Like I have said before, MC was made in a week despite WoW having years of development.

Raiding was an afterthought at the time. If you dont believe me, look up the history on youtube.

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Well.thank you for your response,carry on then.That was totally rude.You just showed an good example of what you betray others to be.

Whatever you want to believe to make yourself feel that only your opinions are right. Enjoy your game.

It’s more of “hey ilvl means nothings and I want to play with experienced players and not cancers looking to take advantage of me for free loot”

In a time crunched dungeon therebisnt time to explain or carry dead weight. And to expect players to do so is selfish

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I agree. I felt the same way about my wife and kids. Those scrubs couldnt pay their own way so I ditched. Cant have people like that slow me down expecting me to carry them.

All they did was whine I am doing the best I can can. Maybe if they learned to “life” everything would be ok. Its not my problem the kid was 2.

Its not selfish of me to have to carry people. I mean comon, its about me.

Its NOT like I specifically mentions playing with friends and family:

Right?

/Sarcasm off

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Good for you. Don’t let anyone hold you back. I applaud you for being able to make that tough choice. Life is short, gotta cut those cancers out if they’re holding you back

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LOL I guess it really does mean you and I are diametrically opposed. I am good with that :slight_smile:

That or I matched sarcasm with sarcasm

See I am 100% capable of separating real life from video games. I will stop to help my fellow human in real life. But in the game they can put forth the effort or move on. I’m not there to carry them

Mice and mazes Calhoun’s experiments,1950-1970 look it upbut I don’t think you would.rude one.

Is the the one where the guy used mice to simulate conditions that humans might experience to create “utopias”

And what was the result?

Been a long time. If I remember their utopia collapsed and their behaviors became abnormal and even barbaric

Read upon it while i rise this toon you would find some similarities to the game .

According to this thread they won’t need to take advantage of you for free loot.

Let us know what is good for their business model because nothing has worked since WotLK.

And you can play with your family, nobody is saying you can’t.

But asking for free hand outs to make difficult content easier isn’t right. It’s difficult to present a challenge, if you can’t do it I mean that sucks but it’s supposed to be a challenge you’re supposed to have to try and learn how to play not out gear the content so you can ignore more mechanics.

People like to chase gear and feel like they’re being rewarded for completing a challenge it’s human nature, there’s nothing narcissistic about it, the difficulties are there to be challenging hence why there are normal/heroic/m+ then theres lfr/normal/heroic/mythic raids. The raids are built around a starting base entry ilevel in mind (355 for LFR, 370 for Normal, 385 for Heroic, 400 for mythic) that is why those raids give the loot they do, to try to give players ilevels to complete the next difficulty. WQs dont have all these different difficulties, they have one and that’s easier than LFR, why should you get heroic raid gear for something as trivial as they are? If WQ difficulties don’t change, why do you need 400+ ilevels currently then 430 next patch? They should be for prepping to get base ilevels for normal raids/lower m+ not a way to cheat the difficulties or gear for mythic raids. If WQs had difficulties like the other content that drop 430 pieces do, I would say fine it’s challenging content they’re completing it reward them for it, but they don’t and they’re certainly not difficult like heroic raids/m10+/1800-2099 pvp.

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Youll really get your shimmersilk in a bunch with this - i got my ilvl to 390 just playing through the game and finishing the alliance side stuff to unlock kul tirans lol. LFR, some pvp and WQs and warfronts only. Not even a single M-0 lolz.

I like knowing my getting easy gear makes the hardcores so hiney hurt

Addendum - am now up to 393! Still no M-0, no reg, H or M raids !!!

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Transmog, mounts, achievements, recipes, quest/legendary completion, hanging out with the guild, preparing for mythics, getting more raiders at heroic and above more chances at loot (hur dur you can do both - remember wotlk? Same thing) gave normal icc gear which today is heroic raid loot.

Blizz has always given casuals and raiders heroic level gear wether it be throjgh the garrison or valor vendor. Handing in badges. Heck there were more raiders back then too and doing a heroic wasnt really challenging when you overgeared them… I think your being narcistic with your request. Why? Because these players probably dont want to raid with people like you? If you asked me when I was raiding I would tell you I wanted the gear to do solo content. Now I can do my solo content. And if you want the best you will have to do mythics. Raiders will have more chances at loot and be able to push mythics ;unless you don’t want that?

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