Stop rewarding the 1%

[Bloodypaws-frostmourne]

@Snozh-malganis

They are whether you like them or not.

As long as people can think for themselves they are not.

@Snozh-malganis

I never said every raider is a casual raider.

That doesn’t exclude non-raiders. A group that you insist are your enemy.

@Snozh-malganis

Nope yours is. I’m not the one demanding the devs cater to me and go against the games design since it’s been created.

Times change. Either you change with or you get swept away. WoW old ways simply doesn’t have the same pull as it use to. Being macho about raiding isn’t going to bring new blood flooding into boring content.

@Snozh-malganis

You think I actually care what a bunch of trolls opinion is of me?

If you want to make yourself enemy #1 on this forum that is entirely your choice.

[Dpoz-emerald-dream]

@Snozh-malganis

You do realize number two is a metric of time right?

@Dpoz-emerald-dream

Notice how there are two definitions of the same word?

@Dpoz-emerald-dream

That means the word can be used in either meaning.

You really don’t know how this works.

[Rudly-proudmoore]

@Snozh-malganis

You literally say the same thing and turn around and cry about no proof. I’m just doing what you’re doing.

The difference between you and I is that I actually do have proof. I’m not going to dig it up because doing so would require an extreme level of effort that I’m not willing to provide because I know that it will go nowhere except to the gaping black hole you call a brain, but evidently your selective memory has conveniently forgotten the uproar that occurred when Shadowlands released and people were extremely vocal about the systems and the time commitment associated with them.

Oh hey, remember when Blizzard buckled down on their systems and then magically did a 180 when their game started bleeding subscriptions because people were vocal about them? I sure do.

Definitely no proof though.

[Snozh-malganis]

@Dpoz-emerald-dream

You really don’t know how this works.

I do.

Number 1 is too subjective.

Player a is stressed out doing +15s
Player b is not stressed out doing +15s.

Therefore when describing a term used for multiple people you can’t use a subjective term therefore the only definition that matters is the metric of time.

[Honeybowl-moknathal]

Yup. Proof isn’t always worth it because ppl like that orc will still go on about something else.

Round and round and round you go on the insanity hamster wheel.

[Snozh-malganis]

@Rudly-proudmoore

The difference between you and I is that I actually do have proof. I’m not going to dig it up because doing so would require an extreme level of effort that I’m not willing to provide because I know that it will go nowhere except to the gaping black hole you call a brain, but evidently your selective memory has conveniently forgotten the uproar that occurred when Shadowlands released and people were extremely vocal about the systems and the time commitment associated with them.

And what you don’t realize is the systems have changed since then.

You’re also not going to be expected to have Max renown

[Dpoz-emerald-dream]

@Rudly-proudmoore

You’re arguing with a brick wall. Half of Snozh’s arguments is ignoring the many other things you bring up to him and then zeroing in on one thing for six hours because acknowledging the other thing would fundamentally destroy his argument. That’s just how he operates. I even provided him definitions that casual goes beyond a time metric and he continued to ignore them and even deflected onto me saying that I was ignoring the definition instead despite that never being the case.

I spent the better part of two days explaining to him that I wasn’t talking about the act of raiding more than I was the time commitment required for players to start raiding (learning mechanics, learning the fundamental parts of your class you may not utilize otherwise, understanding encounters + grinding to get to that point) and yet every time he continued to hunker down on some nonsense that at no point I ever brought up.

Dude is actually the living embodiment of a brick wall.

No kidding. I’m just casually proving him wrong anyway. The casual way in which I am able to do this is surely upsetting to him. I bet he’s not very casual about his time on the forums, which is kind of ironic in a way. I’m enjoying this, casually speaking.

[Snozh-malganis]

@Rudly-proudmoore

Oh hey, remember when Blizzard buckled down on their systems and then magically did a 180 when their game started bleeding subscriptions because people were vocal about them? I sure do.

How many players left for that sole reason? Source please

[Felpickle-illidan]

How can someone who argues about a videogame on its forums for 3 days straight consider themselves a casual. Seems to me like you take this game pretty seriously. Sounds like a toxic elitist too me.

[Honeybowl-moknathal]

I really want him to do the guardian Druid mage tower and get back to us on how solo content is sO eZ (could have sworn he said that one time but I’ve slept since then).

[Bloodypaws-frostmourne]

…that applies to everyone else whose also been commenting solid for 3 days.

[Snozh-malganis]

@Felpickle-illidan

How can someone who argues about a videogame on its forums for 3 days straight consider themselves a casual. Seems to me like you take this game pretty seriously. Sounds like a toxic elitist too me.

We have a winner.

[Bloodypaws-frostmourne]

That includes you.

[Honeybowl-moknathal]

You just described the orc always writing in here.

The spare parts one that starts with an “s”.

[Felpickle-illidan]

Yea i agree lmao, if youre on a forum for something every single day then you take that something pretty seriously and arent casual about it lmao

[Snozh-malganis]

What about when you get paid to do it?

Waiting all afternoon for a hotel to drain the water lines and posting the forums to kill time.

[Felpickle-illidan]

The internet is a vast ocean of different things, chosing to spend that time on a wow forum means you care deeply for wow and dont take it casually

[Dpoz-emerald-dream]

@Snozh-malganis

I do.

Number 1 is too subjective.

Player a is stressed out doing +15s
Player b is not stressed out doing +15s.

Therefore when describing a term used for multiple people you can’t use a subjective term therefore the only definition that matters is the metric of time.

Okay, let’s use it as a metric of time.

How much time can someone spend playing before they are no longer considered casual? Remember, you can’t be subjective about this. There needs to be a very clear answer. I’m going to need a source to reference. Some kind of authority on this matter. It has to be written in stone, like the definition you’re using.

[Rudly-proudmoore]

@Felpickle-illidan

How can someone who argues about a videogame on its forums for 3 days straight consider themselves a casual.

It’s called working from home and having time between my responsibilities.

@Felpickle-illidan

Seems to me like you take this game pretty seriously.

I do take the game seriously because I’ve been a part of this community for 16 years now and want the game to be better.

Funny how you don’t pivot this arguing point towards Snozh, who is also a self-proclaimed casual and has spent an equal amount of time on here.

@Snozh-malganis

How many players left for that sole reason? Source please

Don’t need a source. It’s called putting two and two together with people vocalizing their discontent with systems and subsequently leaving and then Blizzard suddenly coming out with a change of heart about the game’s state.

Though given your history of not thinking too critically about things, I would imagine that this is a difficult concept for you to grasp.

[Felpickle-illidan]

No one who spends time on a forum for a video game takes that said video game casually. Now as a causal wow player i believe snoozh is a toxic elitist try hard sweat lord 1%er gatekeeping basement dweller!!! Down with the 1%