For you, maybe. But as someone in this thread once said:
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Itâs not.
The entire raid could have 262 and be fine.
Ahh, how long did it take for them to grind that out?
Way to take what I said out if context.
I was clearly talking about being heroic raid ready.
I still havenât claimed to speak for all casuals
Yes.
No, thatâs the OP. I donât care about valor or PVP mounts.
Yes. I want to put in time rather than effort and get the same rewards that way.
I donât care if you call me pathetic. In fact, focus on me. It bothers me when you bully other people. From now on, Iâm the only pathetic one, deal?
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For someone who clearly operates at the high-end level of the game, itâs pretty astonishing that you fail to understand that AOTC means having cleared a heroic raid prior to the next patch release.
If your response to me saying âthe average casual player isnât going to invest the time into this game to be at that level of playâ is âitâs not that hard to be aotc,â then itâs pretty easy to infer that you are indeed speaking for casual players because you are asserting the idea that they can clear heroic raid content.
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Blizz isnât rewarding the 1%⌠people are just putting in the required effort to get that stuff and be uniqueâŚand most of it isnât even that rough⌠as a married man and with a 9 month old kid, who also works 60+ hours a week, still has been able to push over 3kio and get plenty of cool stuff⌠or are you just afraid of social interaction in a mmo?
Maybe this thread needs to be renamed to âstop making such ridiculous requirements for casuals for cool stuffâ lolâŚ
I suspect he wants to classify raiders as casuals so he can classify everyone else who isnât raiding as solo players so he can isolate and lambast said âsolo playersâ as much as he likes.
I know what aotc means.
Youâre the one assuming that casual players canât clear aotc because YOU canât clear aotc.
I know a terrible balance Druid that grey parses every fight and she still gets aotc every tier in a two night guild.
Evidently not.
I would have to play the game first in order to confirm this suspicion.
All youâre telling me here is that a balance druid is heavily carried by her guild lol. Whatâs your point? Do they all parse grey or is there someone picking up her slack? Because I doubt itâs the former and I doubt theyâre all casuals.
Considering I have multiple aotc achievements that would disprove you.
So youâre speaking about casuals when you donât even play the game? Lol.
Yes the majority of the guild are grey/green parsers.
I wish people would stop pushing their lifestyles so hard. We get it, youâre straight.
We get it, you like Capitalism.
We get it, youâre a tryhard.
I hate social interaction. Iâm a misanthrope. But we get it, you like people and youâre a chatty Cathy.
Not everyone is like you.
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If you truly advocated for everyone to get good content, then you should be all for Blizz investing a little more effort into open world & casual systems. Because letâs not pretend that they donât have a bias towards the high-end playerbase. Most of the effort Blizz has put into recent expansions has been on borrowed power systems that have the greatest impact and importance to high-end players. Whereas more casual systems like professions are often tossed to the wayside. Dragonflight will be the first time in several years that professions have gotten a significant overhaul.
Not only is casual content often neglected, but it has also become heavily time-gated and is created more for drawing out peopleâs sub time than actually letting them have fun. I donât want casual rewards to require no effort to get. I just want the systems around them to be better designed and more fun.
And yet, when casual players say stuff like that, the high-end players start yelling that Blizz shouldnât waste time on such things. Because weâre the entitled ones, right?
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Yeah, somehow I doubt this but nice try chief lmao
Did it ever occur to you that I donât play the game because I find the casual play unrewarding?
Which, you know, was the entire point of this discussion to begin with?
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Casual players: âI want my part of the game to feel more fun.â
Mythic raiders: âWow, how entitled can you possibly get? Donât you understand that more resources invested in the parts of the game you like means less resources for ME?â
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I donât care who or what you are, just letting you know that all the things in this game are achievable with bare minimum effort, and I hope blizzard continues to keep doing it the way they do now. Have a good one.
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damn i missed another one of these threads until it already had 800 replies.
I mean I donât really care if you believe me. They usually take the entire tier to do it.
Gameplay is the same for everyone. If you choose to exclude yourself for whatever reason (donât want to join a guild or donât enjoy raiding) thatâs fine but donât try to claim that the majority of casuals play the same way you do.
Actually the entire point of the discussion was the OP asking for exclusive rewards in content they donât actually play. Which is like most solo players.
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Whatâs funny is âcasual rewardsâ which you really mean as âsolo rewardsâ is that when they require any effort to get free normal raiding gear the solo player bases complain.
They complained in Korthia. They complained in ZM.
Solo content is always going to be easy because the majority of the solo player base doesnât want hard content.
Because itâs a waste of resources to spend time on stuff the extreme minority want that would be wasted content.