Stop rewarding the 1%

[Snozh-malganis]

@Bloodypaws-frostmourne

You’re really determined to draw up lines between players aren’t you?

This is now thread number two you have followed me into to try and troll me.

@Bloodypaws-frostmourne

Oh boy…defining casual players again

Ohh boy yet multiple people have agreed with me over what I said in this thread.

[Bloodypaws-frostmourne]

@Snozh-malganis

This is now thread number two you have followed me into to try and troll me.

Ok…?

@Snozh-malganis

Ohh boy yet multiple people have agreed with me over what I said in this thread.

No.

Your conclusions aren’t universal since you won’t get everyone to agree on a singular definition of casual since the commitment to do Herioc or Mythic level raids is higher than what would be expected of a casual player.

[Sarama-firetree]

@Rudly-proudmoore

which is generally what the average casual player sticks to

What’s your source on this?

Most “casuals” i know play 3-5 hours a night doing queued and world content.

@Snozh-malganis

This is now thread number two you have followed me

You two are gonna need your own subforum soon

[Snozh-malganis]

@Sarama-firetree

You two are gonna need your own subforum soon

I know lol. I purposefully don’t respond to him unless he responds to me.

At this point his obsession is so relentless because I hurt his feelings I have decided to start counting the threads

[Akston-area-52]

What?

You agree its tied to the metric of time, you just want to discount people able to do challenging content within the confines of your time metric?

[Bloodypaws-frostmourne]

You’re not doing yourself any favors by taking this personally.

[Cítywók-zuljin]

But they also get the mogs just in a diff colour.

[Rudly-proudmoore]

@Snozh-malganis

I clearly stated the term casual is not defined by player ability.

Most people are going to have to invest more time into something in order to be better at it. That is literally how most things work. Just because Frank Sinatra can belt out tones in tune with ease does not mean I can do the same. I have to practice and put more time into it, take lessons, practice on my own time, etc… You pointing out that there are people who raid mythic casually without putting a lot of time into the game means absolutely nothing. It just means that person is naturally talented at the game and can pick up on things easier.

And again, you don’t have a statistic that shows that most mythic/heroic raiders/glad PvPers didn’t invest a lot of time to get to where they were, and so until you do, your experience means jack.

@Snozh-malganis

You then said it’s impossible to casually raid mythic and heroic and have been corrected by multiple people.

No I didn’t. I said it’s possible, but that they were marginal. And having 2-3 people (yourself included) is not multiple. Sorry.

@Snozh-malganis

You clearly did where it states playing something casually and not investing a lot of time into it.

Funny how you accuse me of ignoring one definition while ignoring all of the other definitions in those links.

[Marla-westfall]

@Akston-area-52

This is a self inflicted wound.

There is definitely better gear available for easy content players. They dont want to do anything to get it.

lol - in easy content? there is no comparable gear to what we were getting from titanforging in world content that there was in legion and bfa and that is besides the point. The point is they gave more rewards in the harder content to make up for the increased ilvl of gear rewards in easy content. There is no longer the same rewards in easy content, so the additional rewards for difficult content should also be removed.

[Bloodypaws-frostmourne]

@Sarama-firetree

You two are gonna need your own subforum soon

I don’t see it working out.

[Lahil-wyrmrest-accord]

@Rakket-moon-guard

I can agree with investment, job, career, work.

Earned however, is something I disagree with.

Look man I don’t make the rules I’m just following instructions.

[Orthis-stormrage]

In the past different tiers of difficulty added extra features/looks to armor sets. If the only difference now is just the color of the set, and that’s how Blizz plans to move forward with sets, why not just unlock all the colors when you obtain said piece?

[Snozh-malganis]

@Rudly-proudmoore

Most people are going to have to invest more time into something in order to be better at it. That is literally how most things work. Just because Frank Sinatra can belt out tones in tune with ease does not mean I can do the same. I have to practice and put more time into it, take lessons, practice on my own time, etc… You pointing out that there are people who raid mythic casually without putting a lot of time into the game means absolutely nothing. It just means that person is naturally talented at the game and can pick up on things easier.

Every single aotc guild is casual lol.

All I said was casual includes good and bad players. You’re the one trying to define it as that being the minority.

@Rudly-proudmoore

No I didn’t. I said it’s possible, but that they were marginal. And having 2-3 people (yourself included) is not multiple. Sorry

@Rudly-proudmoore

At heroic and mythic? Absolutely not. Those raid difficulties clearly require you to invest a certain amount of time into the game to be relevant enough to engage with them

You clearly said “absolutely not” and then we’re corrected by 4-5 people.

@Rudly-proudmoore

Funny how you accuse me of ignoring one definition while ignoring all of the other definitions in those links.

Because you’re literally ignoring the second definition in each link.

[Bloodypaws-frostmourne]

@Snozh-malganis

Every single aotc guild is casual lol.

I very much doubt that.

[Snozh-malganis]

@Bloodypaws-frostmourne

I very much doubt that.

Find me a three day aotc guild.

[Bloodypaws-frostmourne]

Hang on…I’ll just count how long it took them to get their max legendries together for the raid…

[Rudly-proudmoore]

@Snozh-malganis

You clearly said “absolutely not” and then we’re corrected by 4-5 people.

And then I said “if they do, they are marginal” and I also mended it in succeeding comments, but I suppose this doesn’t fit your narrative so you’re going to stick to the one thing I said.

@Snozh-malganis

Every single aotc guild is casual lol.

And how much time did they have to spend to get to that point? Do you think the average casual player is going to do that? Probably not.

@Snozh-malganis

You’re the one trying to define it as that being the minority.

Because the whole point of this thread is about what casual players want out of the game and that casual play (which is generally what open world/dungeon finder/lower difficulty content is referred to as) rewards are uninteresting. Then you came in with something about casual players being able to obtain all the rewards, which we both know isn’t true and you don’t have any statistics to make such a claim.

So congratulations on nitpicking and pointing out trivial nonsense?

[Snozh-malganis]

@Bloodypaws-frostmourne

Hang on…I’ll just count how long it took them to get their max legendries together for the raid…

Nice deflecting to search something that’s not even remotely relevant.

[Bloodypaws-frostmourne]

Pretty sure it is.

A good chunk of the raid would at the very least need a legendary just to stand a chance at those difficulties…or is it the two now?

[Snozh-malganis]

@Rudly-proudmoore

And then I said “if they do, they are marginal” and I also mended it in succeeding comments, but I suppose this doesn’t fit your narrative so you’re going to stick to the one thing I said.

You’re the one that said you never said it not me.

You said it.

Were corrected

Changed your point

Then claimed you never said it

That not nitpicking.

@Rudly-proudmoore

And how much time did they have to spend to get to that point? Do you think the average casual player is going to do that? Probably not.

It doesn’t take that much time as aotc isn’t very hard to get.