Stop rewarding the 1%

[Akston-area-52]

@Rudly-proudmoore

There’s nothing delusional about wanting cool things for the time you invest in the game lol

But there are a ton of cool things available to all people.

This thread is based on making a big deal out of the very minuscule amount of items available to people that do the most challenging content.

My favorite mog items ever, all come from open world activities.

[Zyldamyr-hyjal]

@Cäpslöck-proudmoore

It’s still that game.

[Hazzulu-wyrmrest-accord (Hazzulu)]

I don’t know what you’re talking about as back in the early days the game was far less casual friendly. A single person in a BG with a High Warlord or Grand Marshal weapon was an unstoppable juggernaught. Epic mounts were only for the crazy wealthy. Every aspect of progression required a ridiculous time/resource investment. Some of the content for non raiders was basically not completable without people in raid gear (looking at you 45 min baron). Non raid gear basically looked like garbage in comparison to raid stuff.

[Merpish-sargeras]

@Kynrya-moon-guard

They get better rewards to work towards plus multiple achievements to work on that are there to provide extra objectives and challenges specifically for Mythic difficulty. And the borrowed power systems like what we got in Shadowlands? The outcome of those matter most to high-end players and are put in the game to give them something to play with.

Just fyi, the “they” you are referring to isn’t some nebulous community of ivory tower gamers. This is content that you are just as capable partaking in. You’re just choosing not to. The rewards aren’t locked behind elitist gate keeping, just challenges that any player can overcome with enough motivation.

[Rudly-proudmoore]

@Akston-area-52

But there are a ton of cool things available to all people.

Debatable.

Most of the “cool” things that are available to casual/solo players are typically just reskins of the same things we’ve been getting for years now. The game is oversaturated with mounts and pets. We didn’t really need more.

[Snozh-malganis]

@Rudly-proudmoore

There’s nothing delusional about wanting cool things for the time you invest in the game lol

It’s 100% delusional to expect cool things from content you choose not to do.

[Merpish-sargeras]

So what you’re saying really, is that there are enough rewards for causal players, you just don’t like them. Got it.

[Akston-area-52]

@Rudly-proudmoore

Debatable.

Most of the “cool” things that are available to casual/solo players are typically just reskins of the same things we’ve been getting for years now. The game is oversaturated with mounts and pets. We didn’t really need more

And its debatable the couple of items that CE raiders get are automatically the coolest.

Cause I mean, specifically…what are you complaining about at this point? That 4 out of 500 mounts are out of your reach?

[Vanya-emerald-dream]

The real question here is…

…if something wasn’t rare or hard to obtain, would all the “cool and unique” stuff still be cool and unique?

[Robohobbo-illidan]

@Yoggoth-tichondrius

I’ve never seen a game so fixated on rewarding ALMOST ALL the cool and unique stuff they put out to the smallest audience of players they have, less than 1%. Meanwhile the rest 99% of players get next to squat.

League, CSGO, any competitive eSports game.

Not disagreeing with your post, I don’t really care, but don’t say this is unique to WoW.

[Rudly-proudmoore]

@Merpish-sargeras

So what you’re saying really, is that there are enough rewards for causal players, you just don’t like them. Got it.

We all pay the same subscription and arguably put the same amount of time into the game. Just because you put time into a different area of the game doesn’t exactly mean you should get cooler things.

It has nothing to do with the game not having rewards for casual/solo players. It has everything to do with the fact that Blizzard clearly prioritizes the rewards of one demographic over the other.

The way I look at it, Blizzard has designed their system to be this way. Rather than putting an emphasis on just playing the game, they have decided to center it around flashy rewards, except casual and solo players get screwed over because their content doesn’t meet the threshold required to have cooler items.

[Rudly-proudmoore]

@Snozh-malganis

It’s 100% delusional to expect cool things from content you choose not to do.

Who said anything about expecting rewards from content you don’t do? I think the point here is that the rewards from all facets of content should be interesting, and not just one sector.

[Cäpslöck-proudmoore]

Its also about the amount of effort required to get the rewards. You can put all the effort into trivial content, but you can accomplish basically the same thing with much less effort. The content with the rewards you’re complaining about (gladiator, mythic), you have to put that increased effort in to get the reward

[Rudly-proudmoore]

@Cäpslöck-proudmoore

The content with the rewards you’re complaining about (gladiator, mythic), you have to put that increased effort in to get the reward

You can have these things and still have cool rewards attached to easier content. These things do not have to be exclusive.

[Cäpslöck-proudmoore]

They make more world sets than they do raid/pvp sets in a typical patch.

[Rudly-proudmoore]

This is not about the quantity more than it is the quality.

[Celyn-mannoroth]

This isn’t the twentieth century, the game needs to evolve. The raid or die game will not work now. Too many options to be pigeonholed into raid or die progression. Now days there are F2P games with faster content drops and better shinies’

[Blissground-moon-guard]

The people who put in the work should be the ones getting the top stuff. It’s how it’s always been. Stop trying to get this company to hand out things because you feel left out.

[Khlorós-moon-guard (Khlorós)]

Yeah pretty much.

Blizzard is trying to cater to that 1% to turn wow into an esport game and no one really wants it. If you think wow is to easy and that the game needs to be made harder for the top 10 % of the community, go find a different game and stop ruining this one.

wow is not meant to be a Hard MMO, or a difficult one, but blizzard is hell bent on catering to that crowd.

[Jaffarie-frostmourne]

@Rudly-proudmoore

@Merpish-sargeras

So what you’re saying really, is that there are enough rewards for causal players, you just don’t like them. Got it.

We all pay the same subscription and arguably put the same amount of time into the game. Just because you put time into a different area of the game doesn’t exactly mean you should get cooler things.

It has nothing to do with the game not having rewards for casual/solo players. It has everything to do with the fact that Blizzard clearly prioritizes the rewards of one demographic over the other.

The way I look at it, Blizzard has designed their system to be this way. Rather than putting an emphasis on just playing the game, they have decided to center it around flashy rewards, except casual and solo players get screwed over because their content doesn’t meet the threshold required to have cooler items.

There are literally thousands of mounts that casuals can get, you can one shot old raids for some of the rarest coolest mounts in the game, these mounts used to be extremly hard to get and required you to do the hardest content in the game, now you literally one shot them.

The “I PAY A SUBSCRIBTION TO SO I DEMAND EVERYTHING” is the most pathetic argument you could possibly make.

This entire game revolves around giving casuals what they want, there are so many mounts/pets/toys that are easily obtained in this game, the fact you are crying because there is ONE mount per season that is exclusive to those who put in the extra effort and you’re complaining that you can’t get it for free?

Just pathetic, absolutely pathetic, you all reek of entitlement.