Calling out what?
Dude you are virtue signaling in the wrong thread. If they knew of it all happening and did nothing they were complicit. When they choose to go to Twitter now and not the authorities, that is bothersome too.
I am not saying they are lying, I just want you to think why they are coming out now, and once again not through the proper channels?
If you donât know the answer to this question already, then I have to end this conversation right here.
Hmmmm⌠Thought I addressed this.
So Iâll again have to say
What answer? I have said this over and over.
They left the company why not go to the authorities then? Why not go now? Why is it all on twitter?
There are literal videos supporting these men because they are brave speaking out. To me they arenât. They are coming out now years later in âsupportâ when they were never there when the victims really needed it. This is where I donât get the disconnect.
Ex-employeeâs claims are as believable as those of ex-gfâs/ex-bfâs/ex-etc.
Yes, I also agree that âspeaking nowâ doesnât make them âheroesâ.
I agree they shouldnât be applauded for speaking out only when itâs safe to do so (though the factors for why they didnât shouldnât be ignored either). Though itâs also I possible they did speak out, and nothing happened.
But since a handful of posters want to pretend âmaybe the suit is bsâ is equally likely as âmaybe the suit is legitâ, itâs important to bring up evidence that supports the latter, like a bunch of ex employees corroborating both the essence and specific details of the suit.
Humanity not interfering is much more common then you think, it puts you in the way of danger and most people will not help in any scenarios. âStepping upâ is not as easy as you think or make it sound to be, thereâs a lot more to it and also your facing management in this case doing it so if you âstand upâ you may get fired, bills wonât get paid, youâll be ridiculed and reputation destroyed by higher ups, ect ect.
I agree, having the support of the state during a lawsuit is the best time to be coming out against Blizzard.
The same personal responsibility that appears to have been incredibly lacking by their superiors.
Many donât believe them now. Which is the theme of this thread. Why is it the responsibility of the victim to fix the system that made them as such? It is an unfortunate reality that it appears the general consensus is that âweâ have to pick ourselves up by our bootstraps and fix the system that bore this injustice.
none of our opinions matter itâs up to the state of california at this point.
all you have control over is ⌠absolutely nothing lol
idk what youre trying to do.
Have you looked over the state of Californiaâs evidence in this case? Did they send you a Dropbox link for you to peruse so you could come to this brilliant âit happened without any evidenceâ assertion?
Therein lies the problem. These people worked there and either were fired or left on their own. Now granted many may not stay in contact but Iâd be willing to bet that as those who work in the gaming industry do stay in contact with each other. If nothing else as friends.
Were they afraid to say anything? Some for sure. But all of them that are now suddenly speaking up after itâs out in the open? Iâd hate to be their daughter or wife or girlfriend.
Afraid for their jobs? Iâll give them that. But to sit back and KNOW that women were being treated as badly as they were and just went on about their lives? Not saying a word to anyone?
Sure big companies can and will bring out the big guns to shut up the whistleblower, especially if thereâs just one. But, this is a huge company. Well known. One person is all it takes to say something. One person that stood back and said nothing could have spoken out before a lawsuit like this was needed.
Itâs crazy that they are coming forward nowâŚmust be safety in numbers. Or their 15 mins of fame. Iâd think more of them if they had come forward before the lawsuit.
Makes me wonder if they saw a female being accosted in the street would they go on their merry way and ignore it? Or would they wait and see if someone else stepped up to help before they also helped. Thatâs what it seems like here. Only say something if otherâs come forward first. Donât support unless otherâs support first.
Before any of you think differentlyâŚWhere thereâs smoke, thereâs fire. To what extent and how bad it is, we donât know and can only guess. Hopefully things are changed for the better. Which they no doubt will be.
I guess you are victim blaming. It is their fault for not speaking out earlier, right? Letâs move the blame on someone else.
If you think about it these forums would be a brilliant place to scan for possible counter arguments and well worded comebacks. Perhaps this discussion is helping someone involved in the turn out.
Who me? Uh no? I blame the ones who didnât speak up.
Please donât speak to me about being a victim. I was one. And not at a job.
That is not what I was going for in the slightest with the thread. It just truly bothers me that instead of going through the proper channels which would have 100% told them to stay silent until it goes to court, decided instead to grandstand on twitter.
I think in itâs adding more insult to injury.
I think you are getting pushback because, the title at least, is coming off as you saying not to believe the complainants as they may just be angry ex-employees because not many (if any, I havenât really seen it) are giving the executives of the past any pass free, or otherwise. You seem to be arguing a point that no one ever made.
edit: Mind you, there probably are/have been someone giving them a pass, but there are far more who arenât so the âex-employeesâ is being associated with the victims, NOT the executives.
So going forward, no liquor on the work site or at Blizzcon? 
Thereâs a lawsuit. What did you want them to do? Fisticuffs?
Add to that the pervasive stigma of being unemployed, living on welfare, and possibly being homeless. And the irony is that they may very well end up in another job that has the same systemic harassment and inequality.
Those that resigned now have the added stress of paying for the cost of daily life to deal with, on top of trying to explain to their friends and family why they resigned. And then having to explain why they left Blizzard (of all places) in interviews for a new gig. âshould I tell them I was a whistleblower? Should I keep it quiet and then say something later?â
Will the interviewer give them a fair shake? Why would they, if Blizzard (or a previous company, this isnât just Blizzard having issues) hadnât?