Stop Frost Novaing in dungeons

[Grogzor-skeram]

The OP literally thinks that 75% of players are already level 60. I dont think they have enough perception to know whether or not frost nova is good.

[Ravid-whitemane]

Stop stalking me I’m just not that into you

[Grogzor-skeram]

You just have to get to know me. /moo!

[Ravid-whitemane]

I dont think they have enough perception to know whether or not frost nova is good.

No worries. Listen to the 60.

Frost Nova is great. Just not used offensively

[Desombras-stormrage (Desombras)]

It sounds like what you’re wanting is for DPS to just give you a few seconds to Swipe and get position and threat.

Saying never use frost nova is objectively bad advice.

He shortened the life of his keyboard for nothing, nothing I tell ya!

[Ravid-whitemane]

Saying never use frost nova is objectively bad advice.

From the OP

Only in very, very specific situations should you use nova (protecting ranged, when the mobs aren’t on you yet, when the tank is kiting because the healer is OOM, or just generally as a last resort in desperation). Even facing imminent death, it’s generally better to ice block or just die rather than nova.

[Desombras-stormrage (Desombras)]

Sarcasm, just not the same through the written word!

[Grogzor-skeram]

Sure it is. Crowd control that allows you to dps is offensive by its very design.

[Ravid-whitemane]

Frost nova isn’t crowd control lmfao

[Vicktoria-area-52 (Vicktoria)]

It’s fine AFTER the tank has round up all the mobs, has agro and is great when if there are runners or to finish a cluster up.

[Ravid-whitemane]

Sure, I agree with this statement

[Knathragar-norgannon]

Frost Nova is great. Just not used offensively

It’s perfectly fine to use it to shatter in dungeons. Just ask your mages not to use it mid-pull, or to freeze mobs on top of non-tanks.

Instead of ranting and insulting while demanding the spell not be used in a way it’s intended to be used, you’d have served the inexperienced far better by simply describing, in brief, the pitfalls of using it outside specific situations.

[Ithlian-proudmoore]

You lost me in the first few sentences when you showed how paranoid you are about your class choice of druid. Grow up man, it’s a video game. Get some confidence in yourself and stop projecting it on to others. Good luck.

[Drain-windseeker]

This can work to your favor if you nova the mob next to the tank. It will then swing at the tank. But snaring is a better option because they don’t get to swing at all. Roots are also broken quickly by damage. Just snare the mobs and run them around. Try to stay near the melee though so they don’t have to chase it across the whole dungeon.

[Ravid-whitemane]

Instead of ranting and insulting while demanding the spell not be used in a way it’s intended to be used, you’d have served the inexperienced far better by simply describing, in brief, the pitfalls of using it outside specific situations.

Describing the pitfalls was the entire reason for the post. If someone reads that information and gets nothing from the information then nothing else I could say will benefit them anyways

You lost me in the first few sentences when you showed how paranoid you are about your class choice of druid.

What? My class choice? Paranoid?

Oh you mean like explaining my background, and why I’m feral. Yeah that’s a lot of information bud I wouldn’t want to tucker you out with the rest of the post

I think it was the first sentence and you don’t like to read. Luckily, I made a TLDR

Thanks for the bump

[Ravîd-lightbringer]

This can work to your favor if you nova the mob next to the tank. It will then swing at the tank. But snaring is a better option because they don’t get to swing at all. Roots are also broken quickly by damage. Just snare the mobs and run them around. Try to stay near the melee though so they don’t have to chase it across dungeon.

Exactly, CoC kite is far superior in every way. Allows melee to damage snared mobs without danger of attack even if they do agro on the mage, and allows the tank to see and pick up mobs who have changed agro

[Velara-gilneas (Velara)]

The hell it isn’t.

[Ravid-whitemane]

The hell it isn’t.

Crowd control in WoW refers to very specific abilities. It is not a literal definition

The CC abilities in WoW are

Polymorph
Sap
Hibernate
Seduce
Banish
Shackle
Trap

and occasionally

Fear
Blind
Roots

etc.

Other than a few auxillary CC effects which aren’t considered real CC, none allow damage while active

[Velara-gilneas (Velara)]

Aand frost nova snares mobs, hence CC. It’s not an offensive move, but is defensive and strategic, hence CC.

[Raisin-rattlegore]

Agreed 100%
But we all know that mages are the new huntards, and they will keep screwing up aggro and killing other party members to make sure their dps is 1st place