stop crying
/whodathunkit
āHeaven forbid we actually try and improve Warmode. Nope the answer from the peanut gallery is always - turn warmode off. Donāt bother replying to these conversations or in world chat if that is all your input is going to be.ā
Indeed. Thoughtful conversation seems to be lacking on their part.
Dont take the minority as the majority. Thereās a lot of good conversation from both sides.
As far as camping, it is unfortunate and does happen, but thereās only a few things that can be done.
The only one Blizz can do is make guards insanely powerful.
The only one players can do is make counter raids.
Guards are already insanely powerful. If a Horde Rogue gets near Brennadam the guards see through stealth, if you attack one 4 more materialize, and they chase you across the zone vanish or not. Same for the Alliance spawn town in Volādun, Port of something.
Blizzard has addressed the guards.
They are more of a glorified spotlight. Their damage is trivial unless thereās about 15 of them. And even then most classes can manage through it.
A guard damage boost would be the only thing to deter people from fighting. Anyport is a prime example of that as they hit incredibly hard.
I am all for FP camping. It makes the other faction have to form a group and a great PVPtastic brew ha ha ensues.
What blizzard needs to do is to make all flight masters un-killable, or so powerful that it takes 20+ players to even have a chance at killing them. Or, as in Seekerās Vista, an object that cannot be interacted with at all except for access the FP network. Regardless, and especially in lowbie areas, there should be a way out.
Itās bad game design/thinking that āmakes the other faction have to form a groupā when all the player wants to do is something that has nothing to do with the necessity of forming said group in the first place.
As soon as a player enables Warmode, It is assumed that PVP is first and all other content is secondary. If you do not feel this way the TURN OFF WARMODE!!!
We donāt know because griefing does not exist as per blizzards definition.
I have to admit I simply donāt understand the ājust turn off warmodeā argument. How would alternative suggestions like that of the OP POSSIBLY impact you so negatively that you present such an emotionally invested stance? If anything, the various 'escape hatch possibilities that are presented work much better in favor of those for whom PvP is the first and foremost part of the game.
My reply wasnāt in response to the OP statement, I agree with him on a few points and even make my own suggestions in a previous post. My reply was in response to yours where you wrote:
If you are there to do anything other than PVP, and are unwilling to form a group, then you should turn Warmode off.
This system is amazing. It allows players to participate in world content without the worry of being ganked/zerged, by allowing the player to toggle PVP off/on.
My argument is completely clear and simple, I am sorry if you do not understand it. If you āwant to do is something that has nothing to do with the necessity of forming said group in the first place.ā ----Warmode MAKES forming a group a necessity.
World PVP has always been about zerging/camping. From the zerg in South Shore and Tarren Millā¦to the camping of battleground entrancesā¦to the camping of lowbie zones. My āTURN OFF WARMODEā statement is made because that is exactly what WARMODE isā¦zerging/camping and the need, at times to form a group.
I donāt mind the faction camping and raids at places like Seekers point, itās just to be expected of WPvP. The thing that gets me is when you see people killing the guards at Seekers point, it should be like it was with Booty Bay or the Bloodsail Buccaneers where if you kill them you lose reputation; note Iāve never killed a Tortollan guard so I donāt know if you lose rep or not, but you SHOULD and it should be a good chunk, like 100 or 200, for all parties involved. Doing that would put a huge deterrent on some people as that faction isnāt the easiest to grind already.
There is no reputation loss for killing Tortollan Guards.
The problem with your suggestion is the fact that the guards will attack you even if you were not the player to instigate the attack. So players who were concerned with their Tortollan reputation wouldnāt/couldnāt attack back.
There are players that wouldnāt mind losing reputation in exchange for an easy kill, since if we did lose reputation most people wouldnāt attack backā¦or they would get pure joy seeing you lose reputation for defending yourself.
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