Still no player housing?

[Rigatoní-area-52]

@Callince-wyrmrest-accord

Do you have a source or a poll to reference about “the minority”, or are you just basing this off your own “you can’t like what I don’t like” fee fees?

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1103488448838516769/1174499117003714630/image.png?ex=6567d08a&is=65555b8a&hm=cbf835d4eae9935f0eea7252b3745965c3caa98fafcd278337e99b285bf05a66&=

Made this slide a couple of months ago and posted it on reddit. That and the WOw forums are a small minority nobody uses it really.

[Callince-wyrmrest-accord]

You made a poll in a discord. Ok, how big was the discord server? Did you also post the polling in other places? Was this a raiding discord? A guild discord? An official discord?

Because discord isn’t the majority either the only real way to get a true sample would be for Blizzard to conduct an official poll via website or email to subscribers.

[Rigatoní-area-52]

@Callince-wyrmrest-accord

You made a poll in a discord

No. I had to post my picture to myself in dms and copy the image URL to be able to make it into a link. If you read the link, it says media.

[Callince-wyrmrest-accord]

Question still stands.

[Snozo-area-52]

@Callince-wyrmrest-accord

Blizzard doesn’t always (or even often) do what the playerbase wants. “Don’t you guys have phones”? Let’s not preten dotherwise.

Blizzard is a buisness, you cater to your clients. Thats business 101. Them not inserting player housing is because the cost and novelty isnt worth the investment.

@Callince-wyrmrest-accord

How do you know? Where’s your source and polling on that?

You clearly havent noticed but when the majority complain, especially recently in SL and DF Blizz is acting. They still havent made any announcement about player housing which means its not high on the priority list because the majority of players dont want it.

@Callince-wyrmrest-accord

can play whatever I want right now, I’m on WoW. Most of the year, I was on ESO and LOTRO. Cope

I mean I would hope you were able too. I wasnt telling you what to do, I was asking you.

[Snozo-area-52]

@Slotmachine-sargeras

LFR is not raiding, its LFR Qed content,

LFR and Normal raid share the same achievment so therefore they are counted together. Also multiple players consider it actually raiding.

@Slotmachine-sargeras

you can say that 60% does dungeons as well that will include Qed dungeons,

The majority raid in Heroic with a minority in mythic.

I am also talking on a raiding only stats.

[Callince-wyrmrest-accord]

1. And yet they stated it’s something they’re considering.

2. Are they though? Because it seems DF didn’t do enough to remedy the issues, either. Story is still a mess, progression for leveling is atrocious, new player experience is bad, too many systems, too many currencies. Is it better than SL? A bit. But it’s still not what most people wanted, clearly.

3. Well you know your answer then. I play more than one MMO.

Edit: but I’m done for now. It’s pretty clear housing in other MMOs is popular and exists just fine alongside raiding and loot and banks etc etc. Blizzard may one day add it here. Maybe they won’t until they make WoW 2. Regardless-- the “stop liking what I don’t like” mentality is ridiculous.

[Slotmachine-sargeras]

@Snozo-area-52

The majority raid in Heroic with a minority in mythic.

Well actually i dont know if you missed the poll by blizz , most played content by players was M+ in 2023

[Snozo-area-52]

@Callince-wyrmrest-accord

And yet they stated it’s something they’re considering.

Considering because its not cost effective and they have to figure out a way to get a return. It has to be profitable and in a game like WoW its not easy.

@Callince-wyrmrest-accord

Are they though? Because it seems DF didn’t do enough to remedy the issues, either. Story is still a mess, progression for leveling is atrocious, new player experience is bad, too many systems, too many currencies. Is it better than SL? A bit. But it’s still not what most people wanted, clearly.

DFs numbers are up at least raid wise. The story is always going to be a mess because most of the time its rushed.

This game is never going to have a good new player experience with it being this old.

There arent that many systems and currencies in DF especially when compared to SL and BFA.

@Callince-wyrmrest-accord

Edit: but I’m done for now. It’s pretty clear housing in other MMOs is popular and exists just fine alongside raiding and loot and banks etc etc. Blizzard may one day add it here. Maybe they won’t until they make WoW 2. Regardless-- the “stop liking what I don’t like” mentality is ridiculous.

Making assumptions based on nothing is also ridiculous. I dont comprehend how people enjoy playing this game solo, yet I dont advocate for their preferred method of the game to be removed.

@Slotmachine-sargeras

Well actually i dont know if you missed the poll by blizz , most played content by players was M+ in 2023

IDK how you missed

@Snozo-area-52

I am also talking on a raiding only stats.

[Slotmachine-sargeras]

There it is

Poll: What is your favorite game mode in WoW?

There are so many ways to play World of Warcraft, which one is your favorite? poll Don’t hesitate to tell us why in a post below.

[Snozo-area-52]

@Slotmachine-sargeras

There it is

Its literally irrelevant. The numbers I am quoting are only about RAIDING.

I cant simplify this anymore

Also that poll is only the players on the forums and by far is not an actual credible poll.

[Slotmachine-sargeras]

@Snozo-area-52

The numbers I am quoting are only about RAIDING.

Did you look at the poll lmao, poll say 9% or you making up your own numbers lol

@Snozo-area-52

Also that poll is only the players on the forums and by far is not an actual credible poll.

It gives you a sample of data, and which your numbers have no data at all

[Akston-area-52]

Poll is a little misleading because you can only pick 1 item.

Poll is not based on participation, either. So you cant say that the 9% mark means only 9% of people raid. Or anything close.

[Hellasha-alleria (Hellasha)]

@Dmeister-dalaran

Every big MMO running today has player housing except WoW?

Aside from FFXIV which of the other mmos are considered big?

@Dmeister-dalaran

Is there some good reasons why we shouldn’t have this??

Yes, it’d be a waste of resources.

[Foxymoxie-eonar]

They’ve already said they’d need to reformat the entire game to fit player housing and that’s way too much work atm so…please for the love of god stop beating the dead horse. It’s not coming anytime soon

[Snozo-area-52]

@Slotmachine-sargeras

Did you look at the poll lmao, poll say 9% or you making up your own numbers lol

That poll is actually worthless. The vast majority of the playerbase doesn’t even know the forums exist.

@Slotmachine-sargeras

It gives you a sample of data, and which your numbers have no data at all

Incorrect. My numbers are from tracked achievements.

[Anastrasza-argent-dawn]

No you didn’t!!!

But seriously dance studio people should technically have more gripes than housing people.

I mean the dance studio was actually mentioned by blizzard for an expansion feature at least.

I think both sides should duke it out in an arena match !!

Warm up now by arguing here first though …

WAIT geez give everyone time to get their snacks first …

Ok 3 minutes Go!!!

[Slotmachine-sargeras]

@Snozo-area-52

Incorrect. My numbers are from tracked achievements.

Who did the tracking ? Wheres your source ?

[Snozo-area-52]

@Slotmachine-sargeras

Who did the tracking ? Wheres your source ?

WoW audit and WoWprogress.

Capslock has the confirmed numbers link

[Slotmachine-sargeras]

Oh ok so you dont have the link, but ill take your word for it anyway i guess lol, its like i swear i have the money, but my dad has it i swear