Still no news on AV version

[Zaestra-wyrmrest-accord (Zaestra)]

There is no resources in new AV (vanilla new version) and there is still a reason to do these it’s just you don’t have literally 3 days to do them.

Oh! My mistake, I must be thinking of the current AV. It’s been a long time lol xD

[Gnocci-emerald-dream]

I hope we get the later av.
Early av was just bad. It was horribly bad.
All of the people in this thread claiming to speak for all who want vanilla and saying we all want 1.6 or prior, well you don’t.

I hated it. I’m not sure how much I can emphasize that point.

I’m not trying to be a killjoy but it was worse than the original strand of the ancients and isle of conquest. Because at least they end.

I have good news for you!

BFA has exactly what you want, you currently have access to it! Isn’t that awesome?

[Nicho-muradin (Nicho)]

It can if you’re a a flag runner/backcapper.

[Nicho-muradin (Nicho)]

You do know they nerfed AV in vanilla right? So it is honestly just as much vanilla as old av is. You are using your memes too much without thinking.

[Switzy-stormreaver (Switzy)]

You do know they nerfed AV in vanilla right? So it is honestly just as much vanilla as old av is. You are using your memes too much without thinking.

And those vanilla nerfs were only a stone’s throw away from what AV would become later in TBC.

[Nicho-muradin (Nicho)]

No…nononono… not even close. Just because it actually ended and didn’t take a week to finish doesn’t mean it was what it was in TBC where archers no longer killed anyone, and people would literally just rush drek.

[Thelashh-scarlet-crusade]

Nicho , you want AV to be a zerg fest, that was fun for you?

[Nicho-muradin (Nicho)]

Did you even play AV at any point in vanilla? It was no zerg fest in vanilla even after 1.6. In TBC is when it started becoming a zerg fest. I don’t think they buffed the NPCs enough to catch up to the stats we received from 10 levels and new gear.

Also, in TBC is when they removed the elites, removed a LOT of npcs in general, removed a lot of rewards you got for destroying bunkers, added reinforcements. The AVs after 1.6 could still take a couple hours and if you consider that a zerg…idk man I don’t even think you understand what you are talking about.

EDIT: The biggest thing in my opinion that stopped the zergs in vanilla were the archers and they did almost no damage in TBC. They would still 3 shot you in vanilla and zergs just didn’t work unless the other team was completely AFK

[Cabernét-destromath]

1.12 is a safe bet. They’ll have those matches be 1 hour tops.

[Xanthak-durotan (Xanthak)]

Can’t say I have an opinion here.

Everyone I knew that PvP’d avoided AV like the plague. It might have been fun if people followed directions, but most of them it was a bunch of little kids chasing kills like chickens with their head cut off.

[Gnocci-emerald-dream]

You do know they nerfed AV in vanilla right?

You know they continued to nerf after vanilla as well, right?

I feel

I feel you and your feels would be happier in BFA.

[Nicho-muradin (Nicho)]

Oh yeah you care to explain why you think this? Because I would prefer a different version of AV that was present during vanilla? That makes so much sense.

I take it you prefer blizzard to leave C’thun literally unbeatable then by this logic.

You know they continued to nerf after vanilla as well, right?

You mind telling me what this has to do with classic or anything I am saying?

[Gnocci-emerald-dream]

I take it you prefer blizzard to leave C’thun literally unbeatable then by this logic.

Logic rarely rears it’s head where you are concerned. Also you may want to revisit the definition of “literally” before you start tossing the word about.

[Nicho-muradin (Nicho)]

You do know that there was a point where he was actually statistically unbeatable correct? That would mean ‘literally’ unbeatable.

Also why do you never answer my questions? You always avoid them… are you afraid you don’t have an answer to your irrational thinking?

Answer my questions.

[Gnocci-emerald-dream]

You mind telling me what this has to do with classic or anything I am saying?

You mind telling me what your point was that classic was nerfed during vanilla, as if it were some broiling hot take zinger? You prefer the nerfed version, the nerfiest vanilla ended up with. You can have that nerfiness and so much more, presently, in BFA.

Also why do you never answer my questions? You always avoid them… are you afraid you don’t have an answer to your irrational thinking?

Uh, perhaps it is due to you being an abrasive troll?

[Nicho-muradin (Nicho)]

You mind telling me what your point was that classic was nerfed during vanilla, as if it were some broiling hot take zinger? You prefer the nerfed version, the nerfiest vanilla ended up with. You can have that nerfiness and so much more, presently, in BFA.

This has nothing to do with BFA. We are discussing changes that happened during vanilla so they are valid arguments to be had. It has nothing to do with me wanting the most nerfed version it has to do with the version I believe is the most healthy.

So once again, by your logic, we should have unnerfed C’Thun, the OG talent systems (because lets be honest the ones we are getting are the easiest to clear content with right?), we should have the weakest versions of all classes that were in vanilla or at the very least the earliest versions of their values.

You saying “Go play BfA” because I prefer a version of AV that was actually present IN vanilla is beyond moronic.

[Gnocci-emerald-dream]

Everyone I knew that PvP’d avoided AV like the plague. It might have been fun if people followed directions, but most of them it was a bunch of little kids chasing kills like chickens with their head cut off.

It was actually better prior to auto-join raid group. We had small groups of players who could accomplish a ton. It did not require the entire faction to get objectives done. When battling the headless chicken hordes, small groups could be effective and devastating. Those objectives rewarded decent rep and greatly changed the course of the battle.

You saying “Go play BfA” because I prefer a version of AV that was actually present IN vanilla is beyond moronic.

You haven’t given any reason why the older versions that arguably the vast majority of vanilla players preferred, were worse beyond “took too long” for your liking. Then you spout off that your ~feels~ tell you that the majority who want the old versions didn’t play the old versions, which is some majorly dismissive bull

The later version you prefer was also effected by MoHs and CRBGs.

So once again, by your logic, we should have unnerfed C’Thun, the OG talent systems (because lets be honest the ones we are getting are the easiest to clear content with right?), we should have the weakest versions of all classes that were in vanilla or at the very least the earliest versions of their values.

[Nicho-muradin (Nicho)]

You haven’t given any reason why the older versions that arguably the vast majority of vanilla players preferred, were worse beyond “took too long” for your liking.

First, you don’t have the stats on this so let’s not say ‘vast majority’. And second, we are talking about opinions here dude there isn’t any stats or anything to be presented to prove my point because all my points are completely subjective. I said I think it’s a worse version because I think it can take way too long and I personally find it boring because it feels like a two sided turtle. Obviously people can counter these points and say they prefer the other version and be correct in their own way because that’s all we are discussing…is opinions.

You coming in here saying “Go play BfA” is probably the dumbest thing you could have said when we are discussing changes that happened DURING vanilla.

[Nicho-muradin (Nicho)]

Could you just write all your thoughts down at once and stop editing everything you write 10 times so I can actually respond to you? Let’s try that out next time.

[Gnocci-emerald-dream]

Could you just write all your thoughts down at once and stop editing everything you write 10 times so I can actually respond to you? Let’s try that out next time.

You mean like you have been doing, as an example the c’thun part of your earlier post? Put those stones down.