I would love the doesntlastfordays AV that had the resources that ended it within a reasonable timeframe, but I definitely don’t want the letsrushthebossandifnoreeverythingelse AV.
Would you be upset with the early version of AV where you could earn rep and honor decently without having to be there at the end?
I loved waking up in the morning and hitting AV for an hour or two, going to work/school, and then logging back in to the same AV that I was in that morning.
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I won’t be upset about anything they do in classic before I invest any time in it.
Why would I be?
How the classic team manages launch and patching will have an effect on how people play, whatever they happen to prefer.
what gets put in affects peoples enjoyment when they get in the game.
they dont want to have it ruined before it even launches.
and i doubt there will be patching once its live. only the content release things that may or may not be “patches” .
Here’s the thing though, a number of us will likely not subscribe if they do not make the effort to do the older version of AV. Not willing to wait until many months after release before finding out if they took the easy route and went with 1.12. I can get 1.12 on a PS. Not saying I will play on a PS but I damned well won’t be giving blizzard $15 a month for it.
It’s not something that would keep me from playing Classic, since it is still authentic Vanilla. It might hurt my long-term playing though. I could see myself doing 1.5 or 1.6 AV for many, many years. I have little to no interest in 1.12, since that’ll be a zerg just like Current WoW.
I just want to know which version we’ll get before launch. It would be shady for them to keep it a secret until bgs get added, especially if it ends up being 1.12. Maybe they’d want to surprise everyone with an original 1.5 AV? That would be kind of amazing, but I’d fear they would have already driven off some people (like yourself) with their ambiguity.
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Sounds like a personal opinion to me.
I’m sure some people enjoy bg instances that last days.
However, they were never intended to work that way. That’s not an opinion.
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Intent means nothing, only what was.
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Some of the greatest inventions in human history weren’t intended.
Chocolate IN MY PEANUT BUTTER?!?!?!
I DID NOT INTEND THIS TO BEEEEEEEE
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That’s true. I’d find it hard to call the battlegrounds concept an invention.
It won’t matter that much to me in any event which version of AV they decide to put in the game. Being as it’s a game, I’m grown up enough to get over it. I’d still play it, but my feeling is that the version which had people rushing the boss was a shell of its former self.
I’m sure no matter what they do, someone will come moaning and whining about the version they didn’t get and threaten to not subscribe and run to private servers in their angst.
Heck, people are doing it already, and Classic isn’t even beta.
Triggered for some reason?
Look, the simple truth is I left the game a long time ago and will lose no sleep continuing to not sub if they do not do classic justice. Moaning and whining? Really? You’ve made it pretty easy to be dismissed with one boneheaded post.
meh if they dont get it right it will turn off alot of people.
they are threatening to do sharding which is horrible and if it stays in game for more than the 1st week or 2 i will probably be one of them leaving.
loot sharing is the only other one theyve said will be in game and that is a real kick in the nads but i will live with it.
people playing private servers are in for a rude awakening when they shut down because they cant hide in the “we are providing a product that is no longer availible” cover.
I’m talking about the game. AV is part of the game. What are you talking about? Me? I don’t think that’s why we are here.
In general, yes, players complain about the state or preferences they have of the game. Historically, WOW players are very vocal.
I have my own preferences, as I’ve previously stated. But it isn’t the end of the world if it doesn’t happen.
I think one thing to consider is the timeline they have to launch, the small team they have, and the response of the community.
They are probably not going to bother with a lot of the small stuff that they can patch in later. They’re looking at exploits, hacks, stability, stuff like that. They already showed they have a partially working version.
If and when they do a beta, they will probably consider stuff like feedback on versions of certain aspects of the game (such as raid loot and bg versions). We don’t know how they are going to “patch” the game. They say 4 chunks, but we don’t know if those are big dumps or spread over a period of time, or what versions of each of those they will use, or if the later phases patch the older content to keep it relevant.
We will have to wait and see what pre-launch they do.
ya i dont know what version of things they are going to use though theyve said 1.12 is the base of it.
i was more talking about non vanilla qol changes and other stuff like that.
something like that they can tell us rather early.
beyond that about the release schedule they already said in the panels at blizzcon what they are doing. they diddnt say the timeline but they said they will release content dumps .
finally though beta is probably too late to get in our voices about things like 1.5 av or pre 1.11 shield slam till naxx comes out.
and ya we dont know if they are going to patch the game but we do know that they are going with a 1.12 base and that might not be what some people want .
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They were the ones that held off over the span of 10+ years, then pretty much the “dog ate my old versions, all we have is 1.12”, then decided $15/mo for classic was reasonable, then decided to announce a deadline. Players did not make those decisions, they did, and they will be the ones on the hook to create/recreate something worth an AAA sub cost.
Personally I would be quite forgiving if they announced they were going to push back the original release timeframe with the reasoning that they want to make certain they do it justice. In fact they would gain back a hell of a lot of respect that has been lost over the years if they were to do that. It would say to me that they are serious about the product and that it is not simply a dirty rag being used as a tourniquet to retain hemorrhaging BFA subs.
Said it before and I’ll say it again, Want $15 a month from me? You have to earn it. I waited over as decade to get vanilla back, I am willing to wait longer for it to be done right.
Wishful thinking: the reason there won’t be bgs in at Classic’s release is that they need the extra time to recreate the 1.5 AV.
Hey, I can dream.
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AV was a mistake
large scale fights were a mistake
ashran was a mistake
epic battlegrounds are a mistake.
the engine just cant support it well.
shouldve saved these efforts for wow2 on an engine that can actually take 80 players fighting in one spot.
even with the recent multicore patch, same issue, just slightly better.
incredible.