MW also needs better instant cast heals
holy pally and priests and resto can all tank dps while rarely or never using a castbar - MW is rock solid tied to constantly casting to make any throughput difference
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It’s true. If a teammate starts dropping too quick I can’t keep up unless I pop Revival. Having to cast Soothing Mist then Vivify is way too slow…and can be interrupted. Cacoon breaks too easily to reliably counter that as well.
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MW doesn’t need better instant cast heals. Other healers, like holy paladins and resto shamans, should actually have to cast.
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very saddening 
Bump. Don’t care about rogues… back to the top.
Expel Harm on Friendly without the soothing mist component
Improved Mana efficiency
Cocoon buff
also bump
Restoration Druid checking in to raise my hand at this right next to MW.
Expel Harm doesn’t do anything 
one guide said to just take it off your spell bar entirely lol
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“* Resolved an issue that caused Clouded Focus (Legendary Effect) to provide its bonus while Soothing Mist is not active.”
We wouldn’t want mw monks to accidentally be competitive.
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Finally stepped into the Arena today for some super low CR 2s. Hooooo boy.
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There’s nothing wrong with disc. It’s just the best healer to handle this insane burst meta. We run out of mana faster than any of the other healers in a protracted battle.
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You absolutely do not oom faster than current MW. Run with a warrior/ret/ww and watch enemy healers try to maintain mana through your teams burst.
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Disc wasn’t bad at all in BFA. Unless they removed Dark Archangel and made it to where they couldn’t heal for longer than 1 stun DR you could get pts as disc
the hell is that gonna solve
people sit the mw not the teammates, if we are left alone we can do pretty good but nobody leaves us alone after learning we are the true weak target of the team
enemy dps can just blow cd to get through the peels and guarantee a kill 100% of the time almost. MW has no chance unless they blow defensive in anticipation of the impending death, which enemies can just see and switch and wait for you to have wasted it.
how the hell is surging mist gonna solve any of that? We also have to give up extremely valuable pvp talents for surging mist, ones that can actually help you live a slight bit longer
other healers have MASSIVE defensive cd’s that buy time, and can cast a TON more instant casts to stay alive, and they don’t sacrifice anythign to have them
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If Expel Harm is useable on friendly without the soothing mist component, it gives us instant heal if there is threat of being spell locked. Remember we also have a Expel Harm Endurance conduit which increases its healing %.
As it currently stands its very useful when getting trained on by melee if they have kicks available. Putting them back on the bar could exponentially prolong your life, may buy you the 1 second you need to survive
Wanted to bump.
I love MW but I stay away from PvP for reasons stated. But its not much better in PvE. That mana deficiency we have hurts us in Heroics and M+. Even Torghast before nerfs. Ancient Teachings leggo works well when other healers are around(raid) but when by yourself that is when the flaws shine on it. Becomes more of a niche at least to me because without a crap ton of haste you doing damage can leave someone dead or worse a wipe. I feel less confident in keeping people up while fistweaving than just mistweaving and going oom.
Which leaves Tear of Morning which is the best all round leggo PvE wise. Clouded focus I dont know if that is well received I have heard more good things in PvP and bad in PvE.
Do you recommend stacking haste at all as MW in PvP? All guides I’ve seen put this as the lowest on the priority list, however, I saw a MW monk in PvP with haste stats on everything + the 2H haste wep, so I’m wondering if prioritizing haste is new. But how would haste actually help if everything is instant when using Soothing Mist?
Low CR myself only land 1900’s each season [ im bad and should feel bad] besides the point mw is fun to play but in this x pac it bites… anyway throwing my voice out there, hope they get a fix
MW in a terrible state can’t single target heal effectively at all anymore
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Hittin the fatty bump on this thread
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