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not pirated server, it was bad. bottom of the meters
Or add in that spell that lets you relocate your totems, since they gave hunters trap launcher.
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would that even do much? just reroll at this pt
Did I go back in time? No… nope. It’s 2023. Okay… Well Shaman is in the exact same state it was the last 10 years. Nothing should change because we are playing a historical game and history repeats itself.
There shouldn’t be ANY Class buffs or nerfs. If you want Class balance you are playing the wrong game.
We aren’t playing the same game as we were 10-15 years ago. The changes are great, and a few more would just make things better. The devs have already started this snowball affect themselves with buffing Retribution paladins alone. They can buff that spec no problem because they feared it would be left out of raids for low performance, but leave enhancement to rot at the bottom, likely to not be rostered due to low performance? That’s ridiculous and what you’re saying is thought-less.
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They can make these changes pretty quickly, this isn’t 2009 any more.
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Yes this was clearly a mistake and should be reversed. Class ranking should be the exact same as they were in Original Wrath. We aren’t trying to shake up the meta or balance Classes. They were perfect in original Wrath.
No they can’t. Cause then people will quit. There are massive problems with buffing a spec and massive consequences that ruin the game. This should be clear and obvious.
This is a deal breaker when you balance Classes. It’s definitely something to quit over.
They should make severs specifically for this if a few people are interested, they can join those servers. Leave the majority of players and servers out of Class balances though.
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No they were not perfect, but they were getting better. No expansion has had perfect balance. People won’t quit if you make enhancement viable. Right now it has no special utilities, low survivability, which was still noticeable in phase 2 and 3, and will become more so in phase 4. The deal breaker is when you refuse to acknowledge other classes that are struggling. Again, thought-less.
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Along with low performance dps wise because they are very limited with fele being weak and restricted nova off fire totems. The T10 set bonus that turns the one defensive CD into an offensive CD is massive grief, and other T set bonus’ don’t do that to other classes/specs. If you don’t know anything about the spec and don’t play it quit wasting your own time stirring the pot. This isn’t a waste of mine, I am happy to sit here and respond to your ignorant comments.
Original WotLK had perfect Class balance. Some specs were OP and some were weak. It was perfect.
Yes they will. Sorry Class buffs and balance is a deal breaker for Classic. Just stop the insanity!!!
That’s fine. This isn’t the place for making something perform better. This is WotlK Classic.
These balance thread are just trolling at this point. Nothing could be more toxic to the game. I’m outta here if they start doing this and so are most of the players. Please don’t ruin the core of the game for no good reason.
Do this on separate servers where people can sign up for this junk.
I am assuming you are trolling now considering you think OG wrath had perfect class balance. No people will not quit if they were to make enhancement more viable in raiding. With a few tweaks, enhance would become middle of the pack again, not bottom of the barrel. You are trolling at this point, considering you think you speak for most of the players when it comes to changes. There are plenty of players who are not opposed to ret changes or even feral changes, these are welcomed changes. Making enhancement a playable, viable, approachable spec in ICC would not steer any one away. Obvious troll is trying too hard to stir the pot on a thread with no actual evidence to his claims.
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You misunderstand what I mean then.
The Class balance was perfect as it was because some specs were OP and some were terrible. It was perfect as it was. We don’t need to buff terrible specs. That doesn’t make WotLK better.
We aren’t playing WotLK Classic in hopes that bad specs get buffed. We are playing to get the same Class power we had before. Altering that in any way ruins Wrath.
I do think when you change rankings, people will Quit. Class balance shouldn’t be a thing. It really shouldn’t.
Again if you want to have specific servers for this and maybe after ICC has been out then fine. Just don’t alter the core of the games Classes.
Enhance in wotlk is basically a tard spec for arena, that’s it
The original devs’ intent was pretty clear when they gave all your unique team buffs to DKs
No it was not intended for only PVP, there are clear specs made for only PVP. This is not one of them, they had 0 idea what they were doing when making classes between vanilla and end of OG wrath. IF they had a clue they would understand that they made Enhance capable of being spellhance or physhance. Even you don’t have a clue, perhaps don’t comment if you have no idea.
People won’t quit, you might. You need to with 3000+ comments on a level 10 warrior. Yes class balance needs to be a thing, otherwise they might as well create only three classes. A melee, a caster and a healer. That is all we need if they refuse to balance classes , considering there is normally one caster type, one melee type and one healer type at the top. But this argument isn’t about class balance, nor about bringing DPS rankings of enhancement so far up. It is about making enhancement viable and not griefing their only defensive CD turning it into an offensive one. It’s super cool you like to argue to argue, but you need a good point. Repeating the same silly stupid stuff doesn’t prove your point, it makes you look like a clown with 0 idea of what you talk about. Another note, we have wrath classic rerelease for classic andys. Once they bring out Cata, that will kill the game. All your classic lovers for vanilla to wrath will be gone. Not class balance, that will not make people quit. Nerfing classes does, like UH DK. They lost tons of scripts on that one. Making classes playable doesnt lose scripts. You are literally here to argue and stir pots, and its hilarious because you have been called out a few times now.
Actually I’m level 80 the forums are bugged which is why I have on 80 level gear. Really wish they would improve the forums. Give us an armory and link characters properly.
I did find a fix for it though which was to level up another character too 10 which is in this thread here.
Actually disturbing Class ranking from original wrath is a deal breaker for most players.
GO PLAY RETAIL
My god you people are legit Idiocracy levels of cringe…15 YEAR OLD EXPANSION, ASKING FOR BALANCE CHANGES???
You should of done your research…spellhance is actually pretty good in icc, your playing a SUPPORT HYBRID CLASS NOT A PURE DPS CLASS IT SHOULD NEVER BE TOP DPS THIS ISN’T CRINGE RETAIL.
OG good Developers in 2009 purposely made hybrid classes like ret, shaman, and shadow priests support focused dps, you’re there to provide buffs while doing respectable dmg.
So sick of balance wines in 15 year old pve content, not even PVPERS are complaining about balance it’s just the cringe zoomer warcraft log muh parse community that cry cry cry cry about pve class balance it’s absolutely insane.
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The problem is from the devs of wrath.
The original wrath is good and balance.
If the devs can buff ret , feral to the OP level, why not give orther melee classes like rogue, enhance, fury some buffs?
spellhance is literally just playing normal Enhance, if you don’t use spells you’re literally not playing the class right.
we’re not really asking for much, all we want more than anything is survivability. Anything else would just be a cherry on top.
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