[SPOILERS] Thoughts on Nathanos in Shadowlands

It is a solution, but at the end of the day I don’t care who the last person to get hit is.

All I know is that either way one side is going too be pissed about it, and unless we cut it off now or soon before it’s too late and each side has lost things too the point of having nothing left.

If you REALLY Want some type of “justice/revenge” then the pain might as well go half way where both sides are punished and then sent too their room.

This is kind of funny. Does Tyrande want to get justice for Teldrasill? Nope. She wants to hurt Sylvanas’ feelings.

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It also kind of plays into the trope that no revenge will ever be good enough for aggrieved Night Elf players.

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God I hope not. That would be morbid crap if they pulled that angle. :frowning:

Probably not. We’ll be seeing “Destroy Orgrimmar for Teldrassil” posts for the next ten years at least, mixed in with a heavy over-spicing of “Why does Blizzard hate night elves?” when it doesn’t happen.

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The Alliance demanded a trial. The Horde acquiesced to their request after the Alliance aided in the defeat and serving of justice to Garrosh.

Justice was served, it’s just it’ll never, ever be enough. Alliance loves its victim cards.

Nevermind that he was our enemy. He killed your one off unimportant city. He ruined our entire faction, killed Cairne, tried to kill Vol’jin, banished Thrall. Your entitlement is beyond ridiculous.

Wrong! The pandaren demaned a trial, varian and thrall would have simple killed him. But nice try :slight_smile:

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Would killing a discarded lackey really help? Yeah, that’s what Nathanos is. A weak pawn.

The only night elf justice comes when the enemy is severely weakened enough to kill. He has no Valkyr or jailer to empower him anymore. You can call it what you want, but it’s right there to see.

It’s not that we do not get justice, it’s that justice has a “damage control” sign pasted all over it, unless you think quality of presentation is not important.

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I thought Tyrande wanted revenge against Sylvanas and those that enabled her, bearing responsibility for the death’s of the Kaldorei. The Shadowlands stuff concerning her role as Night Warrior keeps being framed in that context; the Night Warrior itself called the incarnation of Elune’s vengeance, no?

Wounding Sylvanas emotionally (though I’m sure Tyrande would much rather do so physically) still falls neatly into the category of revenge. It might be revenge against Nathanos if he didn’t want to die but if its no revenge on Sylvanas if she doesn’t feel the impact.

Jellex, I think you’re right as far as revenge goes. But I suspect most Night Elf players would prefer justice (whatever that means) or simply being left alone to rebuild with all our stuff explicitly back in-game.

However, the game keeps poking at open wounds with tortured Kaldorei souls in the maw and pushing the simultaneously true but opposed narratives of the all-powerful-Night-Warrior and inept Tyrande.

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Depends on how he will be brought back and with what consequences. If he comes back like nothing has happened, then it will feel cheap. If he comes back like Varimathas in ABT, then I wouldn’t see it as cheap. As his death & failure to kill Bwonsamdi just prior will have direct punishment inflicted onto him by the Jailer and Sylvanas.

Sorry but I can never see Kel’thuzad side with the forsaken. Since he saw and probably still does see the forsaken as traitors to his boy King Arthas.

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That would actually be an interesting story development for his character if that’s where to happen.

You are exactly right. I said something similar the other day:

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