Spoilers: Elune’s Identity and more

You have misunderstood the answer. He is saying the Chronicle is Titan and the Servants. There are other perspectives generally. Hence why he says ‘the Titans only dedicate a few pages to the Black Empire from that point of view in the book, but that is a big things itself’. The Chronicle is Titan perspective but hence we certain aspects are not covered or are skimmed over.

Yeah, maybe. This is a little picky. They might have created systems post-fact. It kind of depends on the specifics to say what words should be applied.

Is accolon the guy that went complete soyface or was that his twin skoll?

The Art of World of Warcraft: Shadowlands, pg. 99: The First Ones who shaped the cosmos knew they needed to protect the Shadowlands from external threats and beyond. Maldraxxus was their answer

Bellular interviewing Morgan Day & Steve Danuser at 10:30, Steve Danuser: They were these mysterious and very powerful beings that sort of architect-ed the framework of the universe of which the Titans, the Pantheon of Death, pantheons of all these different influences are kind of the next layer down from the First Ones, these progenitors of the universe

Plus all the others one Lore posted

First Ones created and shaped the cosmos. Deal with it.

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Everything is a contest with the Horde. It’s why their leader is called “war chief.” All war, all the time, and to hell with anything else. The Horde from the lore, canon Horde… I’m cool with. The Horde players as a faction? As a group that has a voice on these forums? omg. sotoxic, for the most part. It’s why they dominate pvp, the ultra-competitive gravitate towards the Horde. It has been and always will be the faction of the Edge Lords, and I can’t stand them for it.

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Why? /10char

I was just asking, lol. I didn’t know it had been said so much.

All I think know is about the phrasing.
Shaped. Architected. Clockmaker. Created.
Most of these imply working with something.

You’re still not demonstrating creation, you’re demonstrating shaping. They have had EVERY opportunity to say that the First Ones created the universe. But they have very obviously been careful NOT to say that. We’re not denying the truth, because your “evidence” is still inconclusive.

Yeah, no. Read above. They’ve had every chance to say they created the universe. They did not. They said that the First Ones shaped the universe as we know it. But please, keep being a pompous prick.

Are you blind

If someone builds a hut, I’d say they created that hut. It doesn’t mean they made the wood, or grew the trees, etc. I think that’s the point.

Hence shaped, architected, clockmaker.

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“All of what we’re seeing” Are you blind? Shaping the known universe does NOT mean they are the source of fundamental creation

Except they said “Created all that we’re seeing”. Specifically. The language of clockmaker and architect are used in Anglophone philosophy to describe God in his capacity as creator. It’s basic metaphor dude.

Blocked the other guy for degeneracy, but you’re being contrarian for the sake of tedious semantics.

Edit: Apparently, 80% of my block list is Moonguard, which is unsurprising but tedious.

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People really like to just jump to insults. But ok. Have fun.

Imagine thinking these writers are referencing philosophy.
But you’re the same person who heavily pushes Troll headcanon.

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Yes, because these are basic metaphors. They’ve been referencing various religious theology and mythologies throughout Shadowlands, a lot of which extremely obscure unless you belong to specific ethnicities (such as the very specific Irish themes in Ardenweald) or like reading about this stuff.

Blizzard writers are often incompetent writers, not ignorant writers.

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Some are, some aren’t. We know different writers cover different things that get tied together.

But believe what you want, that’s what you do.

Same to you, with all your cynicism and bitterness :slight_smile:

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“Isn’t Falstad dead, from uh, Day of the Dragon” - Chris Metzen

Sometimes they can be forgetful and maybe a tad bit ignorant.

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I was referring to cultural ignorance, as is obvious from the conversation you’re quoting.

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You sure love being obnoxious Baal.

:wink:

What do you store in vacuum of space in your head where your brain was meant to go?

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